Arista Networks Citi TMT Conference
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- Arista guided to 40% revenue growth for the year, targeting $12.6 billion in revenue.
- Deferred product revenue is growing due to AI use cases, with acceptance criteria delaying revenue recognition up to 18 to 24 months.
- Arista has experienced two revenue cycles: a cloud cycle from 2019 to 2021 and an ongoing AI cycle now entering its third year.
- Purchase commitments increased from $3.6 billion to $9.6 billion over three quarters, securing supply through 2026 and 2027 despite ongoing supply chain challenges.
- Arista's Ethernet portfolio leverages its heritage in reliability, security, performance, and scalability to address AI networking demands, which are more stringent than classical cloud computing.
- Hyperscaler customer concentration is diversifying, with two to four 10% customers expected this year.
- Non-hyperscaler adoption is growing, including neoclouds focusing on token cost optimization and enterprises attracted by Arista's low CVE count and total cost of ownership benefits.
- Campus market share is about 5%, with growth outpacing market rates and new campus-first deals being won.
- Arista's operating margins have expanded by 100 basis points over the past two years, with gross margin guidance at 62-64% and operating margin around 48%.
- Arista tripled purchase commitments to secure supply and is transparent on value-based pricing, passing through cost increases related to memory and components.
- International business showed 36% growth in EMEA last quarter, with ongoing investments in federal and international markets.
- Software revenue remains about 18-20% of total revenue, growing linearly with hardware sales as it is bundled with hardware and support.
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Everyone, welcome to day three and the final session of Citi's Global TMT Conference. We have definitely saved the best for the last. My name is Atif Malik. I cover U.S. semiconductors and networking equipment names. It's my pleasure to welcome Chantelle Breithaupt, Chief Financial Officer, as well as Tyson Lamoreaux, Senior Vice President, Cloud and AI Networking at Arista. Welcome, guys. Oh, thanks so much.
Thanks for having us. Yeah, thanks.
Great. I'll kick it off with my questions first. If you have a question, save it towards the end. We'll tend the mic, and you ask your question. Chantelle, deferred revenue has been a hot topic this year on Arista. Arista consistently achieves strong revenue growth, has guided to 40% growth this year, and yet the complexities of AI use cases have resulted in strong growth in Arista's product deferred revenue. What is the right way for investors to think about Arista's growth? Is it the growth in the revenues plus the change in deferred revenues?
Yeah, I think it's a great question. We're super excited to, in the last earnings call, raised our revenue guidance to be 40% growth, $12.6 billion. We're very excited to be able to deliver that kind of guidance. If we think about it, deferred revenue is a topic. I think that if we just level set what deferred revenue is, if we're talking about the product deferred revenue, that means equipment that's been shipped, invoiced, and cash collected, but we have acceptance criteria that keeps us kind of skin in the game with the customer to get to the kind of net results they want to get to. If you think about what goes into here, it used to be the cloud.
If you go back a couple of years, the cloud deployments were put in there, and now AI has basically put that on steroids from a complexity, to your point. From a how do you interpret it perspective, I think if you look at Arista, there's a few things I would keep my eye on. I would keep my eye on the P&L growth, what's happening in deferred revenue. But I wouldn't do a quarter-over-quarter kind of thing. I would do a trend over four quarters, maybe six quarters, because things will come in and out generally, because it's an acceptance-based criteria. I would look at the purchase commitments, and maybe what's sitting on the RPO table. All four of those things kind of give you a picture of what's happening and what's to come.
I think that from the perspective of deferred revenue as well, and sometimes people don't understand that some of these deployments can take 18 to 24 months till we hit the acceptance criteria. So it's important to understand the timing of how long this can be and when we would realize it from a P&L perspective.
Great. Chantelle, just for perspective, how far are we into this current cycle with deferred revenue, and how does it compare to what Arista experienced in prior cycles?
Yeah. Even though we're now going to be part of the S&P 100, we're only about 12 years old as a public company, right? We've had, I would say, two cycles, the cloud cycle and the AI cycle. What you're referring to, Atif, is during the cloud cycle, which is kind of the 2019, 2020, '21, you saw deferred revenue raise because we had this deferred construct because we had the use case of cloud, 400G and then coming into 800G. Then we kind of went through a little bit of cloud, and then AI took off. This AI cycle is the second one. The cloud one was about three years. We're in, I would say, going into year 2.5 to 3 on AI proper from a materiality perspective.
I think there's many years to come on this cycle, and so we'll have to see because we're talking about scale up, scale out, scale across, training, inference, front end, back end. We don't see AI going away anytime soon, so this cycle could be longer.
All right. With that topic out of the way, the next big topic has been the supply environment. Supply obviously remains challenging. On your last results, you came out strongly on supply. Where are you seeing the most pressure in the supply chain?
Yeah. We started the year, and I'm very transparent, Q1 was not our favorite call because we did have to talk about the supply chain environment, and I think that's what you're referring to. But we wanted to be honest and transparent. A lot of this pressure is coming from right at the top of the fab capacity, and I think anyone in the industry should be talking about there is tightness no matter where you sit in that hierarchy. But as we work through to the Q2 call coming into August, we did find some vendor arrangements with fab capacity, memory. So those things, I think, we've sorted through 2026 and 2027. But you have Whac-A-Mole on some of the other component parts, PCBs, capacitors, et cetera. So there's things that are more peripheral short term, and then there's structural things like fab capacity.
We feel very well positioned. When we talk about purchase commitments now, that's a year lead time for chips going into Q3 next year. We are already talking that $9.6 billion at the Q2 end purchase commitments is already going into second half next year. So well positioned, but I don't think anyone's out of the woods when it comes to the full supply chain for networking data centers generally.
Can you remind us any purchase commitments you made to secure the supply?
We have grown. If you look three quarters ago, our purchase commitments was about $3.6 billion, and now we are at $9.6 billion at the end of Q2, so over three quarters, basically tripling it. That's leaning into demand we are seeing. So you should see it as a demand. It's getting some of these memory things sorted. Then there are some things that are a little bit longer than 12 months. From that perspective, we feel very good that the supply chain team learned a lot during COVID, learned a lot during the beginning of AI, got the contract manufacturing components sorted. I think it's a demand signal at this point, and we feel very confident about that.
Awesome. Tyson Lamoreaux, a lot has been said about the differences between AI traffic and AI networks versus classical cloud computing network, and Arista has developed its Etherlink portfolio to address the opportunity. What commonalities are there between Arista's classic cloud solutions in hardware and software versus the AI solutions?
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