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Kate McShaneAnalyst

You guys ready? I think we're ready.

Ed StackExecutive Chairman

Jen is over there. Great.

Kate McShaneAnalyst

Okay, good morning, everyone. It's my pleasure to introduce DICK'S Sporting Goods and to moderate our fireside chat. Today, we have with us Ed Stack, Executive Chairman of DICK'S Sporting Goods. Ed served as the company's chairman and CEO from 1984 through January 2021. We also have with us Lauren Hobart, President and Chief Executive Officer of DICK'S Sporting Goods. Lauren joined DICK'S in 2011 as Senior Vice President and Chief Marketing Officer, and she became president in 2017 and CEO in 2021. We also have with us Navdeep Gupta, Chief Financial Officer of DICK'S Sporting Goods. Navdeep joined DICK'S in 2017 as Senior Vice President, Finance and Chief Accounting Officer, and he became CFO in 2021. Navdeep, I'll turn it over to you.

Ed StackExecutive Chairman

Well, fantastic. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. I wanted to read the disclaimer, but I am guessing nobody is interested in reading it, so our non-disclosure agreement is actually filed on the website. Nate, wherever you are, thank you for doing the reminder for me for that.

Kate McShaneAnalyst

Great. Okay. We will get started. I guess right out of the gate, we will just talk about the state of the athletic category, if that is okay. I think there is a good amount of concern out there about what is going on in footwear and apparel. If I have this right, since COVID, we have been seeing a strong casual athletic trend, which has been underpinned by increasing health and wellness focus. More recently, I think we have seen more cautious commentary out of the brands and more challenged results out of other athletic retailers. Could you maybe level set where you think we are in the athletic cycle for both footwear and apparel?

Navdeep GuptaCFO

Yeah. Thanks for the question and thanks for inviting us. I think that the idea that the athletic cycle is over is overdone. When you take a look at what our footwear business is on the DICK'S side, our business on the DICK'S side is really very good. The specialty channel is a bit more challenged, but on the DICK'S side, it is very good. A couple of things, and it is more the specialty channel. Foot Locker on launch shoes was much more dependent on the high launch retro shoes than we are at DICK'S. The same with some of the other specialty players. That business has slowed, and there is the ability to pivot to other areas of the business, which is, I think what we have done at DICK'S extremely well.

Navdeep GuptaCFO

Whether it is new brands that I would say are not emerging anymore but have emerged, such as On and HOKA have been great. On the DICK'S side, we transitioned to those pretty quickly. Foot Locker didn't do that and wasn't able to do that. You see other brands now coming up with sock and dollars less expensive on such and such a site, we didn't want them to go someplace else to buy that product. We felt that we really wanted to retain that consumer, and we felt that that was the right investment to make in our business. We talked on our call, I used the word investment very purposefully, that we do feel it was an investment in our business to make sure that we keep that consumer. We wanted that consumer to come back and shop with us at Christmas.

Navdeep GuptaCFO

We want that consumer to shop with us in the spring for his or her baseball cleats, softball cleats, soccer cleats, other product. We didn't want to be viewed as high price in the marketplace, and they get that mindset and don't come back and shop with us. It was an investment in our business. We talk all the time that we make investments in our business, not for a quarter or two, but for a lifetime. We look at it that this was really a lifetime investment that we're making in our business. We do think it's going to continue through the fourth quarter. But if we had a mulligan to do it all over again, what we did in the second quarter, we'd do it all over again exactly the same way because we look at this in a very long-term way.

Kate McShaneAnalyst

Okay. Thank you. If we could maybe just go back to the legacy silhouette comment. It's been a category or a subcategory that I think that's been under pressure for a while, but Foot Locker U.S. was able to comp about 6% in the first quarter in spite of, I think, it still being somewhat challenging. So why do you think some of the slower growth in these styles may be caught up to Foot Locker in the second quarter? Did something meaningfully change? When you think about the inventory situation, how many quarters do you think the industry needs to work through this inventory?

Navdeep GuptaCFO

I think that there's a couple things. Those legacy silhouettes, Foot Locker did really very well in the first quarter. A lot of it was really helped by the launch product, the Jordan Retro product. The second quarter was a disappointment in that product across the DICK'S business, the Foot Locker business, the other direct competitors businesses, and the brands. So we think that was a big issue there. These legacy silhouettes, they had been trending down, but somewhere in the second quarter, they really slowed. But when a couple of these brands, and Nike in particular, brought out different materials and different embellishments on some of those legacy silhouettes, Air Force 1 or Dunk, so to speak, you couldn't keep them in stock.

Navdeep GuptaCFO

If you take an Air Force 1 silhouette in a traditional triple white, triple black, or a traditional white shoe with the varsity colors, red, blue, black, those have slowed significantly. But a triple white Air Force 1 in patent leather, a triple white Air Force 1 in black, you can't keep those in stock today. So it's trying to get enough of those in the marketplace. Now how long that has to run, I don't know. But right now, there's the ability if we had more of those product, it would be a very different scenario. The discounting got pretty aggressive in the second quarter, and like I said, we expect that to continue through the balance of the year.

Kate McShaneAnalyst

So maybe if we could go back to the guidance cut. Obviously, the market was surprised by the cut, both on the DICK'S core margins and on the Foot Locker comp and margins. You talked a little bit before how promotions are important and you're using it as an investment. But if maybe we could just focus on DICK'S first. Do you think there's a degree of conservatism in your guidance, just given the strength of what you've seen so far in demand at the store? Footwear grew in the second quarter. So how much discounting do you think there really needs to happen? Is there any kind of broader discounting here beyond the footwear that we should be aware of?

Lauren HobartPresident and CEO

I'll start with. DICK'S, we're really pleased with how the business is doing at DICK'S. In fact, as you know, we kept our comp guidance the same. We did reflect some of the promotionality from the legacy footwear, which affects the DICK'S business as well, and we also reflected some conservatism toward fuel costs and healthcare costs, which we have been experiencing all year. But overall, we are so bullish on. Well, we're bullish on the entire business, but the DICK'S business is very strong. We'll continue to manage through some of the impact of the margin and some of those other existential or exogenous impacts from fuel and healthcare. But overall, we never guide to the best possible outcome, but we feel really good about our guidance.

Navdeep GuptaCFO

I think there's a concern out there that the contagion that is in Foot Locker will spread to DICK'S, and we don't see that. If you took a look at our footwear, we don't guide or disclose category by category what those comps are. But if you were to take a look at our comps in footwear, they're really quite good. You'd be pretty pleased. Part of this is this transition that the DICK'S team, we've been ahead of that from a legacy silhouette standpoint, but we still had to be competitive in the marketplace on those. But when you take a look at what's happening from a transition out of some sneakers, so to speak, into some other categories, whether it's Birkenstock, UGG, Timberland, that's all part of the footwear business.

Navdeep GuptaCFO

And we really believe that an athlete, kid playing high school sports, male, female, they really need five different shoes. There's five shoes on their shopping list. One is the shoe that they're going to wear in their sport, whether it's baseball cleats, basketball shoes, whatever it might possibly be. Then it's also going to be a running shoe because everybody's got to train from a running standpoint. And then training today, those of you who watch from what's going on from a fitness standpoint, whether it's HYROX, whatever it might possibly be, this training, there's a very different pair of shoes that you're wearing to train in. It's not a traditional running shoe. So you need that training shoe. And then the recovery piece of this has gotten really extremely hot, the mind shoe. So the whole recovery aspect is really important.

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