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Alex ScottAnalyst

Okay. We will get going here. First, let me just say thank you for being here. I have Yanela Frias, Chief Financial Officer of Prudential Financial.

Yanela FriasCFO

Well, thank you for having me. Great to be here. Of course.

Alex ScottAnalyst

You have laid out a five-year plan in August, narrow the footprint to more than a dozen to about six geographies, rotate north of $3 billion of capital, take PGIM from 12% to 25%, and remove $750 million of costs by the end of 2028. There is a lot there. What are the components that are more tangible that you can focus on in the next year? How would you map that out first?

Yanela FriasCFO

Yeah. Well, agree there is a lot there. I would say we are not starting from scratch, right? This is something that has been well underway. Obviously, we rolled it out very recently, but we have been working through it, developing the strategy, and beginning to execute for a while. Maybe just let me go through each of the components. When we think about the capital rotation, which will generate well north of $3 billion, we have been really executing that for a while now. We have announced a couple of the smaller emerging market transactions, Indonesia, Kenya, for example. There are a few other small ones that are very close to completion. Then, the larger ones, Mexico, Brazil, those processes are well underway, that we think through this year will play out over time.

Yanela FriasCFO

From that capital rotation and the exiting of emerging markets, we feel really good about where we are and how we've been executing. Second is PGIM. We have a stated objective of doubling PGIM's contribution, making it 25% of PFI's AOI. Half of that is organic, with the other half being inorganic. That organic piece has very much been underway in terms of us investing in capabilities that will drive higher fee asset growth. Those investments are going quite well. Frankly, we've been executing them for a while, and they're starting to hit the J curve. They're really contributing to the earnings. That, plus the fact that the integration of the multi-asset model to one PGIM, we're almost a year into that, and that also has been delivering results, including expense and revenue synergies. That's PGIM. Third is the $750 million expense saves and what we call optimization.

Yanela FriasCFO

That's another thing that's been well underway. If you remember, we put out a goal of $150 million in saves back at the end of last year through 2027. Those saves are coming along. We've been executing on that, and the $750 million is just sort of an expansion of that and of looking at us operating differently, and there's several levers that we're looking at that we can talk about. But that's a process that's been underway as well, and we're starting to see the benefits in the earnings coming through already. Then lastly, there's inorganic, which obviously is a little bit more out of our control. But the way we think about that is we're very active. We're constantly out there in the know, in the flow.

Yanela FriasCFO

We're not waiting for auctions to come to us. We're engaged in the process. That's something that we will be driving and highly engaged in going forward and on an ongoing basis. The last thing I would say is, also very important for us is that continuous execution of the day-to-day business. We want to be excellent operators, excellent allocators of capital. That will show up every quarter, has been showing up every quarter, and that's a big part, especially in the near term, of how we intend to demonstrate progress towards this longer-term strategy.

Alex ScottAnalyst

Yep. I want to follow up on the M&A piece. I mean, my perception is you all have been a little louder in discussing M&A recently, and wanted to get a feel for the kinds of things you're interested in, and how do you approach return hurdles and, ultimately, over what time period does it need to be accretive to metrics like EPS?

Yanela FriasCFO

Yeah. I think on M&A, we have been open about it, about the fact that it is part of the strategy, and we've opened the aperture a bit. Historically, when we spoke about M&A, it was constantly about PGIM, about smaller programmatic transactions that would enhance our capabilities, and we've done those, and they've gone well. DeerPath, for example, being one of them. We do think as we think about the longer-term strategy and the more ambitious goals that we have, that larger transactions will be more impactful. That's when we say open the aperture in terms of the size, but also in terms of the areas that we're focused. When we think about where we're focused, I will start with PGIM. That is an area of focus. Obviously, we will continue to look at the smaller single-asset capabilities because that will be helpful.

Yanela FriasCFO

We've also expanded to look at platforms that have multi-asset that will bring in more capabilities within one transaction, which will result in revenue and expense synergies. That's an area that we've been focused on. Second is in group insurance. We believe that group insurance is a strong business for us, strong opportunity, capital-light business, where we have a very strong current position, brand distribution, and part of our goal is to grow those capital-light earnings, PGIM and group insurance. The strategy there has been to go down market and to diversify from a segment perspective, and there is inorganic opportunity there, an example being dental and vision as a capability we don't have today. Third would be around expanding our presence in U.K. retirement.

Yanela FriasCFO

You've actually seen us already transact in terms of our partnership with Standard Life and CVC to expand and to participate in the U.K. BPA market. That also brings on board a significant client for PGIM in terms of managing the assets. I would highlight that transaction also, in terms of opening the aperture as to what types of transactions we do, how we leverage our capabilities, how we leverage our balance sheet. It doesn't all have to be an outright acquisition. That's one, I think, a creative way of entering and expanding our presence in U.K. retirement while not going out there, having an outright acquisition, acquiring a license in the U.K., which we don't have today. Those are the three areas of focus. I think we will continue to be very active.

Yanela FriasCFO

We will be very disciplined in terms of the type of transaction and the economics, to your question. We'll be active, we'll be disciplined. It has to be the right transaction strategically. Culturally, it has to bring on the right capabilities. We have multiple levers of funding. We have the well north of $3 billion, but there are other levers that we do have. In terms of the dilution altering our capital deployment plans, there will be a very high bar for dilution. There will be a very high bar for us to alter our current capital deployment plans. Ultimately, the transaction has to add long-term value to the shareholder, and we will look at it in terms of what are the returns, what are the economics relative to other capital deployment plans and opportunities, including giving that capital back to shareholders.

Yanela FriasCFO

It has to be additive and contribute to our objectives of top-quartile earnings growth, higher cash flow generation, and market-leading returns on equity.

Alex ScottAnalyst

Yep. Okay. I want to key in on the Group business for a minute and just the strategy to go down market. Group Benefits has been, I would call it, a pretty fantastic business, heck, some of the COVID volatility over the last several years, so I totally get the interest there. I would say that some of the peers have had a tough time going down market. That is the one thing in Group Benefits I have not seen a big company really succeed at. So how do you approach that, and how do you sort of succeed where others have fallen down there?

Yanela FriasCFO

Yeah. No, I think that is a great question. I think, look, our strategy there has been to diversify the product set and diversify our segment penetration and presence. I actually ran that business a couple of years prior to coming to this role, and when I got to Group Insurance, having been at Prudential for 27 years, I was positively shocked at the brand that we have in that space and the strong distribution that we have. So it was obvious that we had a huge opportunity to grow because we were highly concentrated in very large employer life and, to some extent, disability, but mostly life. So the strategy has always been about diversifying the product set, coming down market, and we have actually executed quite well doing that, right? So we view this as we have a larger opportunity.

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