Strive, Inc. 15% Series A Perpetual SATS Preferred Stock 2026 Q2 Earnings Call
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- EchoStar Corporation filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy for its Hughes entities due to a $1.5 billion bond maturity on August 1st that could not be resolved with bondholders.
- The bankruptcy filing is limited to Hughes entities and does not include EchoStar Corporation or other non-Hughes subsidiaries or Hughes international entities.
- EchoStar has increased its stock buyback authorization to $5 billion, up from $2 to $3 billion.
- The company holds approximately $14 to $15 billion in cash and estimates a $5 to $7 billion tax liability related to the termination of its wireless network and SpaceX-related transactions.
- EchoStar owns 261.8 million shares of SpaceX and holds valuable spectrum assets including AWS-3, K-band, and 700 MHz spectrum.
- Boost Mobile, a subsidiary, was slightly cash positive in the quarter but lost subscribers; new leadership is implementing strategic initiatives to improve performance.
- EchoStar is cautious about market valuations, including its own stock and SpaceX shares, due to historically high market levels.
- The company is awaiting an FCC waiver to hold spectrum licenses without a network and expects a ruling soon.
- EchoStar is involved in a stalking horse bid for DBS assets valued at approximately $300 million, which is considered immaterial relative to other assets.
- The Dish Wireless bankruptcy confirmation hearing is scheduled for October 13th, with an expected resolution in Q4 2026.
- Management emphasized a long-term, conservative capital allocation approach prioritizing investment in core businesses, followed by new opportunities, share repurchases, and dividends.
- There are restrictions on share buybacks under bond indentures, but no restrictions on buying convertible securities.
- EchoStar is open to potential M&A or partnerships involving Boost Mobile and DBS consolidation but has no preconceived notions on buyer or seller roles.
- Management highlighted the company’s 46-year track record of prudent capital management and long-term value creation.
- The company does not currently need access to capital markets and is focused on resolving litigation and restructuring matters.
- The estimated $5 to $7 billion tax liability includes considerations of SpaceX share appreciation, 1033 exchanges, and network termination costs, but remains uncertain due to ongoing litigation and variables.
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Greetings, and welcome to the EchoStar Corporation Q2 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow a formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Jeff Blum, Acting Chief Legal Officer and Secretary. Thank you. You may begin.
Good afternoon. I'm here with Charlie Ergen, Paul Orban, our CFO, and John Swieringa, our COO. We will begin with opening remarks from Charlie, followed by a question-and-answer session. We ask that any participant producing a report not identify other participants or their firms in such reports. We also do not allow audio recordings. All statements we make during this call, other than statements of historical fact, constitute forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provided by the Securities Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause our actual results to be materially different from historical results and from any future results expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements.
For a list of those factors and risks, please refer to our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31st, 2025, our 10-Q filed today, and our subsequent filings made with the SEC. This information and supplemental materials relating to today's call will be posted on our investor relations website. All cautionary statements we make during the call should be understood as being applicable to any forward-looking statements we make wherever they appear. You should carefully consider the risks described in our reports and should not place any undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. We assume no responsibility for updating any forward-looking statements. We refer to OIBDA and free cash flow during this call.
The comparable GAAP measure and our reconciliation for OIBDA is presented in our earnings release and, in the case of free cash flow, in our Form 10-Q, as filed today with the SEC. With that, I'll turn it over to Charlie.
Thank you, Jeff. We're just going to take questions, but before we take questions, I just want to give a few opening comments. As you all know, August 1st, we had a $1.5 billion bond maturity for Hughes Corporation. We had discussions with the bondholders but weren't able to come up with a workable solution. We filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy this morning for Hughes. I want to make just a couple points on that. One is, this filing is strictly limited to the Hughes entities. It does not include EchoStar Corporation, our other non-Hughes subsidiaries, or even Hughes international entities.
Second, we have first-day motions this afternoon in front of the court to ensure that Hughes continues to operate the normal course of business, and that means we're paying our employees, we're delivering for customers and channel partners as usual, and we expect to fulfill all ongoing forward commitments to our vendors. Third, we don't know how long bankruptcy will take before we can emerge restructured. As a result of the litigation that is expected in this, we won't take questions on Hughes, but I would refer you, and you are referred in our press release, there's a link to our filing that I think lays out chapter and verse the details there. With that, we'll take questions.
Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Your first question comes from David Barden with New Street Research. Please state your question. Hey, guys.
Thanks so much for taking the questions. I guess I wanted to start with Charlie. No one probably knows better than you the discount to which EchoStar trades to its remaining portfolio of assets and SpaceX. Now that you've got the AT&T money, it would seem a logical thing to start buying back stock. If not, why not? What would be the priority for that capital next?
Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, Dave, for the question.
First of all, you will see in the 10-K, 10-Q, I guess, that we did increase the authorization. The board increased the authorization up to $5 billion of buyback. Obviously, one of the things that we look at based on our capital structure is one of the things we look at, I would say first and foremost, we look at investing in our business. We'd look at our existing businesses to invest in and the opportunities there. EchoStar Capital, now under the leadership of Tom Cullen, we look at other things we can look at, which could include our own company. After that, if we can't find anything there, you could work all the way down to paying dividends.
We've been a good steward of capital for a lot of years, and I hope we'll continue to do that.
Appreciate that, Charlie. Thank you.
Your next question comes from Brent Penter with Raymond James.
Please state your question. Hey guys, thanks for taking the questions.
A couple from me. First, I want to follow up on David's question. You mentioned EchoStar Capital, and that was folded under the corporate development arm. Does that represent any change in philosophy about how you're investing at EchoStar Capital and any change to the list of kind of opportunities you gave back in November last year?
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