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Sean LaamanHead of U.S. Mid Cap Biotech Equity Research

Good afternoon, everyone. I am Sean Laaman, Head of U.S. Mid Cap Biotech Equity Research here at Morgan Stanley. Welcome to our Global Healthcare Conference. For important disclosures before we commence, please see the Morgan Stanley research disclosure website at www.morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. If you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley sales representative. For this session, we have Axsome Therapeutics with CFO Nick Pizzie and COO Mark Jacobson. Welcome to the both of you.

Mark JacobsonCOO

Thanks, Sean. Great to be here.

Sean LaamanHead of U.S. Mid Cap Biotech Equity Research

Yeah. Yeah, if you can do me a favor, I have three sort of macro high-level questions to start.

Sean LaamanHead of U.S. Mid Cap Biotech Equity Research

First one is, how has the rise of China originated innovation, if at all, changing the competitive positioning and your R&D and BD playbook?

Mark JacobsonCOO

Sure. For us, it is state of affairs is mostly status quo on the R&D side. We are seeing more products and earlier stage products that are being identified, discovered, and developed in China that are making their way over to the U.S. either in terms of potential business development efforts. We are seeing that, and then maybe another element of R&D is just increased number of third-party vendors or non-clinical, pre-clinical laboratories and beyond that are becoming viable options for R&D efforts. I would say we are seeing those two elements the most and maybe one other item is solriamfetol is of course available, and I am not sure if that is what you are alluding to, outside the U.S. So there is that potential impact, but again, for us, things are status quo.

Sean LaamanHead of U.S. Mid Cap Biotech Equity Research

Sure. Thank you. Are you implementing AI across the business? If so, where are you seeing it have the most effect?

Mark JacobsonCOO

Sure. We are, and it is across the business. I think as you know and probably behind the question is there are all kinds of ways to implement and deploy AI, and we do that already on the commercial side of the business. So, for data and analytics, how we're modeling, how we're applying those models to sales operations and tactics. Then there are actually tools that we have implemented for the sales team members. So determining next best action or call plans. There are AI engines that we've incorporated into that process. So what does that mean? That's there as a tool to drive efficiency and productivity for sales representatives.

Mark JacobsonCOO

It's also being deployed in other elements of the business, and we haven't talked a lot about it, but there are all kinds of ways where you can use this powerful computing tool to monitor CMC activities or drafting large documents and templating those and having them driving speed to, say, early drafts or QCing large bodies of data that you could expedite that process. So it's showing up in all kinds of ways. There are individual efforts for individuals driving this. There are teams of folks thinking about how to drive innovation at the organization. So it's percolating through the organization, but not anything that we've necessarily disclosed AI innovation plans around. It's all just part of the company's kind of normal state of affairs in doing business now.

Nick PizzieCFO

Yeah, I'd say probably the one thing it won't necessarily substitute is that face-to-face interaction with the HCP. That's something that the doctors truly value is understanding the product directly from an Axsome representative, and we could just see how AI potentially can support the reps to be even much more efficient and effective.

Sean LaamanHead of U.S. Mid Cap Biotech Equity Research

Sure. Thank you. Last question before you leave Axsome specifically, but which policy variable, FDA, Medicare negotiations, MFN, tariffs, or global pricing matters most to your economics and what have you changed in anything, if anything, because of it?

Nick PizzieCFO

Yeah, sure. Maybe I could answer that question. Probably, the biggest factor there would be the IRA negotiations that, if and when they do come about, would impact us starting in 2032. The team's already preparing for that and doing the HEOR analysis and publications and so forth to prepare in the event that we do have the negotiations. Additionally, we've already priced into our peak sales model of $8 billion, we would say, a relatively conservative approach or conservative estimate, compared to what some of the outcomes that we've seen thus far.

Mark JacobsonCOO

Yeah. Maybe just to add to that, you had in that list just FDA dynamics. For us, I'm trying to find another phrase besides status quo, but it's generally status quo for us that look, we have the three approved products. AUVELITY, it was recently approved for Alzheimer's disease agitation. So that's launching, and I'm sure we'll talk about that. The other programs that are in development, we've received FDA feedback on, commensurate with those stages of development for any given program. So, we feel very good about our dialogue with FDA and what we need to do to submit additional marketing applications. We have another one under review right now, by the way, that's AXS-12 for cataplexy and narcolepsy. We have a PDUFA date there of May 1st.

Mark JacobsonCOO

Again, status quo on the FDA side, even though we know earlier this year and prior, there were a lot of changes. There are new guidances that are coming out, but again, we feel good for that part of the business.

Sean LaamanHead of U.S. Mid Cap Biotech Equity Research

Awesome. Thank you. Got a series of questions for you now on AUVELITY and the ADA launch. Really strong growth in Q2, high teens, 18% I think it was. A lot of debate in the market, how much contribution from ADA versus benefit or penetration MDD from the expanded sales force. How do you balance those two?

Nick PizzieCFO

Yeah. For Q2, it feels like it's a distance. It's been a while now since Q2, but the vast majority of the scripts in Q2 were related to MDD, specifically around the expansion. I think what we're seeing in Q3 is that a significant piece of the NBRXs, we're starting to see the impact of the additional indication in our NBRXs. Most recently, this past Friday, we hit a new all-time high of 3,800 NBRXs per week. That number is continuing to grow quarter over quarter. We were at 2,400 in Q1 on average on a weekly basis, 3,000 in Q2. Now tracking the last three weeks have been three consecutive weeks of the highest NBRXs that we've had for Axsome or for AUVELITY.

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