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Pagaya Technologies Ltd. Class A Ordinary Shares CG 46th Annual Growth Conference

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Joseph VafiAnalyst

All right. We are going to keep continuing here at the 46th Annual Canaccord Growth Conference. Once again, I am Joe Vafi, equity research analyst here, with a focus on fintech. We are pleased to have up again with us this year, the management team from Pagaya and Pagaya CFO, Jonathan Dobres. Any good fintech should have at its core a disruptive element to its business model, and potentially a great fintech should have multiple disruptive elements. I think Pagaya falls into this latter category, leveraging what we believe may be one of the more powerful and holistic next-generation consumer credit algorithms in the market today, combined with investment vehicles raised to fund loan portfolios generated with that algo. The company has made great progress in its corporate evolution, and the momentum is reflected in Q2 results posted, I think maybe last week, was it?

Joseph VafiAnalyst

Yep. Or the week before.

Joseph VafiAnalyst

An increased outlook for the year. With that quick intro, thanks for being with us, John.

Jon DobresCFO

Thank you. Great. Great to be here.

Joseph VafiAnalyst

I think some people here do know the Pagaya story. It has been in the public market here for a couple of years now. But just in case you are not familiar with it, maybe you could just introduce Pagaya to us in 2 minutes or less, and then we will get into it.

Jon DobresCFO

Sure. And thanks again for having us again this year. It has been a great conference. We have had a great set of meetings Great today so far.

Jon DobresCFO

Pagaya, at its core, is a technology solution that enables our bank, fintech, and just broader lending partners to convert a greater portion of their potential borrower flow. So what does that mean? We have created a network that connects, on the one side today, about 35 lending partners with very large pools of institutional capital. In the middle of that network is our well-honed, over time, AI decisioning engine. So we are obviously deciding on the loans originating from these lending partners and funding off balance sheet with these very large pools of capital. Currently, Pagaya is about $14 billion of run rate of consumer loans in personal loans, auto, and point-of-sale. Our net income last quarter was $45 million, which has scaled each of the last six quarters since we went net income positive.

Jon DobresCFO

We will exit this year with a $200 million GAAP net income run rate, which we are very excited about. But taking a step back, I think more about what Pagaya should be and will grow into. There is no reason why every lender, every bank in the U.S. shouldn't be a part of our network. And it is not because we are good at selling them, it is because the economics of it are undeniable. All we are doing for all of these banks, financial institutions, generally speaking, are bringing in more customers improving their relationships with the customers, and monetizing those customers for our partners.

Jon DobresCFO

If Ally or U.S. Bank, for example, originates a loan that we help facilitate, even though we're taking, and when I say we, again, this is mostly off balance sheet, even though we're taking the credit risk away from them, they're still getting the customer relationship.

Jon DobresCFO

They're still monetizing the customer in some way. It may be an origination fee at first, a servicing revenue stream that hits their ROE directly because there's no capital set aside against it. In the auto situation, they're improving their relationship with their dealer networks.

Jon DobresCFO

For point of sale, they're bringing a more holistic solution to their merchant networks. When I think about Pagaya on the whole, our opportunity is truly massive. We have 35 partners today. There's no reason why that shouldn't be double over time. When we think about our pipeline and just who we've onboarded this year, we see a trajectory to that level. What do each of those partners mean to us? A scaled partner, for us, is $30 million plus of essentially contribution margin on an annual basis. It takes a year or so for a partner to scale, so that's not day one.

Jon DobresCFO

When you think about the types of companies out there that have such deep, entrenched relationships as a service provider to financial institutions and can bring that much in terms of revenue and bottom line from each new relationship, when you extrapolate out our growth, it's really quite powerful.

Joseph VafiAnalyst

That's great. It's been a great story so far and the partner growth, and the same store growth in those partners has been great. Coming off just a really good Q2 result with a lot of good stuff going on, maybe we kind of frame this opportunity in the light of what you posted in Q2.

Jon DobresCFO

Yeah. So Q2 to us, and it's been 2026 in general, but really started to click in Q2, is proof positive, I think, of what we've been saying really about our product-led growth strategy and how we grow, frankly, for most of the past 2 years. If you think about what we said at the beginning of the year, we looked at the macro, we looked at the consumer, and we saw a strong consumer. However, what we also thought is if macro conditions deteriorate, if inflation remains persistent, where would we see stress in what we're originating? And we identified in our riskiest 2 credit tiers, which tend to have a lower-income borrower, if stress leaks into the market, again, we weren't seeing it at the time, but if stress leaked in, those would be the credit tiers most affected.

Jon DobresCFO

So we limited, we pretty much eliminated origination in those 2 tiers.

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