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Toby OkwaraAnalyst

Welcome to the 14th Annual Laguna Conference. For important disclosures, please see the Morgan Stanley Research Disclosure website at morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. If you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley representative. I am Tobenna Okwara. I am part of the Morgan Stanley Multi-Industry Research team. Happy to have Rockwell Automation here, Blake Moret, CEO, and Tessa Myers with Intelligent Devices. Thank you guys for being here. Starting off, just looking generally with some of the longer-term trends impacting the company, how have customer conversations changed now compared to last year with some of the progress around reshoring and investments in manufacturing?

Blake MoretCEO

I think the tone is generally optimistic. To be sure, there is a lot of tailwind. There is a lot of headwinds, and I am sure we will talk about inflation and tariffs and so on. But the underlying tone from our customers is distinctly positive. Our home market, North America, is the best place to be investing now. To be sure, we are enjoying some of the growth from data center. But in our traditional served end markets as well, we are seeing a generally positive demeanor. Within each of those industries, there is end market-specific activities going on as well. As we move across discrete, hybrid, and process end markets.

Blake MoretCEO

In discrete, we saw low double-digit growth the last quarter from automotive, which is about 10% of our total business. We are still not seeing a wholesale release of CapEx, but we are seeing some major projects here and there. We are certainly seeing a lot of modernization. Discrete is where data center is found, e-commerce, warehouse automation. The parcel handling companies are spending a lot of money to get the right balance between labor and technology. In hybrid food and beverage, we are seeing decent growth, again, primarily centered around modernizations. Home and personal care, high single-digit growth in the last quarter. Life sciences, about 10% growth in Q3. That is one of the areas that we are seeing some early examples of reshoring, or shoring, as I like to call it. Energy markets. When oil prices are high, when oil prices are low, efficiency is still an important part of the agenda for the oil and gas companies.

Blake MoretCEO

Mining and chemical, I think, show some signs of progress.

Tessa MyersSenior VP of Intelligent Devices

Tessa? Yeah. I think across the board, we're seeing good progress across industries, and operational efficiency and driving productivity in plants is always a top priority for the customers that we serve, and that drives demand for the products and services that we have.

Toby OkwaraAnalyst

As you think about that operational efficiency perspective, how have some of the labor constraints and broader inflation in the market affected the conversations and the prioritization of these automation investments?

Blake MoretCEO

Yeah, I think about a year ago, there were some conversations we heard from two different types of industrial companies, one in automotive and another one in parcel handling, where they had gotten through discussions with their labor unions, and they immediately went to a place of how can we get additional automation, again, to strike the right balance there? So at 4.1%, 4.2% unemployment, a lot of key jobs in manufacturing are going unfilled, and so having the right amount of technology for the scarce resources that these manufacturers do have is really important to give them the superpowers to get as much productivity as possible per person who is working in these facilities. That's been a consistent theme across really all of our served markets. I think in data center, just to go there for a minute, time to value is so important. Modularity. These things are looking like factories, as people have said, and so our technology is being increasingly adopted there, and we're seeing some nice wins in an industry that previously was not as big a contributor.

Toby OkwaraAnalyst

I think a lot of the conversation is centered around modernization investments, but when we're thinking about the broader theme, it has been more so centered on greenfields and bigger project activity. What do you see as the main catalyst that would really unlock that larger project activity going forwards?

Blake MoretCEO

Yeah, I think a reduction in the uncertainty. As there is a lot of active headline-grabbing trade discussions going on. I was in Washington yesterday, and it is a very active moment, certainly for the U.S.'s most important trading partners here with Canada and Mexico. A reduction in the volatility there, particularly in industries like automotive, where the supply chains are so integrated across those three countries, I think that would release more capital.

Toby OkwaraAnalyst

Is there any data point or anything particular you track to keep a sense on the broader momentum in the market?

Blake MoretCEO

We are most highly correlated over time to industrial production. We certainly look at the PMI rates, and those have been positive for a while now, over 50. But industrial production is what Rockwell's business traditionally has been most highly correlated to. I certainly look at that. I look at unemployment, because I think with such low unemployment in our home market, demand remains intact. A little bit harder to quantify, but progress of, let us say, USMCA 232, Section 232s are in some ways even more important right now. But watching the progress of that, those are some of the things I am looking at particularly.

Toby OkwaraAnalyst

To that policy perspective, we've seen different government initiatives, whether it be tariffs or OBBA. How have these initiatives impacted the conversations and demand around reshoring, and what policy do you think you'd want to see that could further spur it?

Blake MoretCEO

I'd like to see us take a pragmatic approach with the targeted application of tariffs, not the wholesale, one-size-fits-all type of approach. Let's focus on the main issues, which is non-market behavior by non-market economies that are doing disruptive things with overcapacity, but not a broad-based approach that hurts friend and foe alike, as well as U.S. manufacturers, for whom they have a very hard time finding domestic sources of critical inputs. If the main prize is to increase the amount of final assembly in the U.S., providing a clearer path for being able to get relief on inputs that are important for that final assembly, I think is an important area of focus for policymakers.

Toby OkwaraAnalyst

I guess as you look at some of the movements in demand more recently and how customers have reacted to tariffs, how do you parse out shorter-term investments to mitigate tariffs versus investments that will build towards that longer-term strategy of capacity?

Blake MoretCEO

Yeah, I think people are still getting on with their strategy, and I look at Rockwell's own behavior. We announced not too long ago a major new plant that'll be very close to our headquarters in Wisconsin. While we won't see the first products coming out of that plant until 2028, we're taking a long view to what can unlock the next level of customer service and margin expansion there. Tariffs currently aren't helpful, but that shouldn't cause us to put an indefinite pause on the execution of things that are going to increase market share and expand margins. I think a lot of customers looking like it, looking at their own strategy and their own roadmap in that way.

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