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Operator

Okay. Hi, everyone. Thanks again for joining us at the conference. We are really pleased to have Universal Health Services with us today. UHS is a provider of acute care and behavioral health services. With us from the company are Steve Filton, CFO, and Darren Lehrich from Investor Relations. Thanks again for being here. You guys like to start with any kind of intro comments, or would you rather just hop right into Q&A?

Steve FiltonCFO

I will make a few introductory comments, and then Darren, over to you. It just feels like ages ago at this point, but a quick recap of Q2. I think we were pleased in Q2 with the rebound in volumes in both of our segments. Solid expense control in both of our segments. We had the benefit of the Florida Developmental Disabilities Defendant Program, the 2025 calendar year program that was approved, and we recognized that benefit in the second quarter. We had also some unfavorable discrete items, which I am sure we will get into in the Q&A. As a result, we lowered the midpoint of our EBITDA as NCI guidance by about 3% at the midpoint, which now leaves us with a projection of growth for the year compared to last year of about 3% of EBITDA as NCI line.

Steve FiltonCFO

The other significant developments, I think post second quarter, were we closed the Talkspace acquisition, and we completed a $1.1 billion bond issuance, both in the mid-August timeframe. We talked about Talkspace at some length, but I will just remind people, very excited about the opportunities that Talkspace creates for us. Again, I am sure we will get into more of that. Talkspace will add about $250 million in annual outpatient revenue to our behavioral results. We have said previously that in the first 12 months, we expect the Talkspace results to be slightly accretive. I think for the balance of 2025, it will likely be immaterial. We are very excited about the Talkspace acquisition.

Steve FiltonCFO

The access to their panel of 6,000 therapists, I think, really creates an accelerated opportunity for us to grow our outpatient business, which has really been a focus of our behavioral division for certainly the last several years, and really creating the first sort of end-to-end continuum of behavioral care that really exists in the industry. It is really unparalleled. I will pause there, Steve, and answer whatever questions.

Operator

Great. Okay. Yeah. Well, maybe we'll start, try to keep it on the acute side of the business, then we'll come to behavioral for maybe the second half of the conversation. You mentioned that you're pleased with the improved volumes in the second quarter. I think second quarter adjusted admissions were 2.9%, and the first half of the year, it was 1.4% overall. You trimmed the guide a little bit, and I think now you're looking for the full year as 1.5%-2.5% on the volume side. I guess, how are you thinking about the back half volumes at this point in time and how you approach adopting the guidance there?

Steve FiltonCFO

Yeah. So as part of our second quarter commentary, we reduced slightly the volume guidance for both segments by about 50 basis points. The midpoint of our acute volume projection growth, adjusted admission growth, went from 2.5% to 2%. Really, as I think your question suggests, in our minds, it was just an acknowledgment and sort of a clarification of the fact that with adjusted admissions in the first half of the year growing by 1.4%, even though the second quarter was stronger, 2% seemed a more reasonable sort of target for the full year. Generally, we feel like volumes are pretty solid, and in line with historical volumes. I'd make the point that, over the last decade, our acute care-adjusted admissions have grown between 2% and 2.5% on average over a 10-year period. So, adjusting to the 2% is still well within range.

Steve FiltonCFO

We like the markets we're in. We like the overall demand environment. Feel pretty good about it.

Operator

Okay. When we think about the composition, that volume growth, I guess, how should we think about how that breaks across the different kind of insured profiles? How does it compare for commercial Medicare, Medicaid, I guess, like self-pay, to the degree you can comment on that?

Steve FiltonCFO

Yeah. Putting the exchange dynamics to the side, which we'll probably talk about separately.

Steve FiltonCFO

Yeah. I think outside of that, there haven't been significant changes to payer mix.

Steve FiltonCFO

I think in the first half of the year, we saw a bit of an increase in Medicare and managed Medicare, a bit of a decrease in Medicaid and managed Medicaid, and commercial volumes fairly stable. We didn't really have a specific guide in the back half of the year to payer mix dynamics, but expect them to essentially be relatively consistent with the trends we've been seeing.

Operator

Okay. On the surgery side, I think remained a bit soft. I think you were down kind of approaching 1% in the second quarter. I think inpatient was up and outpatient was down. I think there's a lot of questions just about how kind of more broad-based elective trends are maybe holding up versus things like emergency surgery. Could you expand a little bit on sort of the surgical experience you've had in the early part of the year, and how you're thinking about that, how schedules might look for the back half of the year?

Steve FiltonCFO

I think as you noted, our overall surgical volumes were down 0.8% in the second quarter, and that was actually an improvement over the prior period, sequentially an improvement over the prior period. We were pleased, as you suggested or noted, that inpatient volumes were up in the more sort of acute procedures. I think we feel like that's potentially a reflection of the investments that we've made in inpatient surgeries, whether that's robotics or other equipment upgrades, et cetera. We have not historically sort of disclosed elective versus non-elective or parse surgical growth out between elective and non-elective, but we do keep track of it and have not really noticed any significant issues in that regard.

Operator

Okay. Just in terms of, again, I guess what you assume in the back half of the year is relatively similar to a continuation of the second quarter trends, or any reason to think that's any different than maybe the exit rate on the quarter?

Steve FiltonCFO

No, I think, as I noted before, we've scaled back our overall volume growth projections for acute care by about 50 basis points, and I think have taken into account the fact that surgical volumes have been a little lighter than maybe we anticipated at the beginning of the year. No, so I think that's been taken into account in our guidance revisions.

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