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Operator

All right. So we'll kick it off. I'm very pleased to have up here Fidelity National Financial. Joining me is Mike Nolan, CEO, Tony Park, CFO. So welcome, gentlemen. Thanks, Terry.

Operator

Glad to be here. Yeah, glad to have you.

Operator

So we just jump right into it. Maybe just to start off, can you maybe update us on third quarter trends across purchase refinance and commercial?

Mike NolanCEO

Sure. It's been interesting, even with the rate movement, that on the purchase open side, we've outperformed last year every month through August. In the first half was about a 3% overall improvement. In July, which we previously reported was 4%, and in August it was 6%. So we actually had our best year-over-year month in terms of purchase opens percentage growth in August. Refi, really when you think about last year, rates were going down during the year and our refinance volumes went up. We've really had the opposite of that this year with rates starting lower and then increasing. So while we had in the first quarter, I think a 50% improvement in refinance opens, that fell to mid-teens in the second quarter. July was minus 5%, and August, we're in the mid-30s decline. So definitely seeing how that gets impacted with those rate movements.

Mike NolanCEO

Commercial has just been steady and strong all year. Through August, we are up about 6% in our opens, total opens. August was up 8%. Still seeing strength in that commercial segment.

Operator

Got it. That is helpful color. Mortgage origination volumes have come under renewed pressure this year from higher rates. What is your outlook for the rest of 2026 and 2027 relative industry forecasts of roughly $2 trillion in 2026 and $2.3 trillion in 2027?

Mike NolanCEO

Well, our outlook really is that there is still strong underlying demand for home buying and home refinancing. Over time, as rates ease, I think we can see meaningful increases in that activity. If rates stay kind of bound in the range they are at, then you are probably looking at more steady state from where we are at today.

Operator

Got it. You touched on commercial. That has really been a bright spot in 2026. Can you just talk about what sectors are showing the most strength today and also where you are seeing continued pressure?

Mike NolanCEO

Well, you're right. The commercial has been broad-based, and we're tracking towards a record year. In terms of sectors, we've seen it across multiple asset classes and multiple geographies. Things like industrial, multifamily, energy, affordable housing, retail, hospitality. Probably every segment you can think at except for office.

Operator

Okay. Maybe just talk about the nuances you're seeing within national versus local trend.

Mike NolanCEO

Any notable differences? On the order activity, they've both been up all year.

Mike NolanCEO

Open orders on the local side have been modestly up over national. Probably the notable difference has really been around fee profile and revenue growth. It's been much stronger on the national side in terms of percentage revenue growth year-over-year, both for revenue and for fee profile.

Tony ParkCFO

Yeah, I think we reported, was it 29 deals in the second quarter. We reported 29 deals that were closed either through our direct channel or our agency channel that were over $1 million in premiums. Clearly the size of the deals is helping drive that fee profile.

Operator

Got it. Any particular sectors with the larger deals?

Tony ParkCFO

I mean- In those 29, is that the question?

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