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Craig HettenbachEquity Analyst

Well, good morning, everyone. I'm Craig Hettenbach. I cover healthcare technology and providers at Morgan Stanley. Very pleased to have with us Universal Health Services this morning. Steve Filton, CFO, and Darren Lehrich in investor relations. For disclosures, you can see them at our website, www.morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. With that, Steve, I'll just pass it over to you for some intro comments before we get into the Q&A.

Steve FiltonCFO

Yeah, sure. I think maybe as a brief start, kind of a quick recap of Q2, which at the moment seems like ages ago. But we were pleased with our Q2 results in the context of rebounding volumes in both of our segments. We felt like both segments continued to demonstrate strong cost control and pleased by the benefit that we got from the Florida DPP program, which we recognized for calendar year 2025. Still waiting for the approval for calendar year 2026. We had some exogenous unfavorable items in the quarter, caused us to revise our guidance downward by about $50 million at the midpoint. At that sort of midpoint of our revised guidance, we're now projecting on an EBITDA less NCI basis about 3% growth for this year. Over last year on an EPS basis at the midpoint, projecting about 6% growth.

Steve FiltonCFO

I think subsequent to the quarter, or at least the quarterly announcement, probably the most significant items of note were we closed the Talkspace transaction, which we're very excited about, and the opportunities to really accelerate the growth in our outpatient behavioral business. I'm sure we'll touch on that more. The 6,000 therapists that Talkspace currently has on their panel, that add a tremendous amount of capacity for us. We also did execute on our $1.1 billion bond deal. Both the Talkspace closing and the bond deal were in mid-August, and that sets us up for several years now of solid and comfortable financing. So, I'll pause, and Craig, happy to entertain your questions at this point.

Craig HettenbachEquity Analyst

Great. Thanks for setting that up. I want to start on just the behavioral health side of the business. If we look at the last couple of years, growth, pricing has been a very important driver of that growth, and volume has been a little bit on the lackluster side. So, what are some of the key things that have been driving both those parts of the equation?

Steve FiltonCFO

Yeah. On the volume side, we did adjust our guidance for volume for adjusted patient days on the behavioral side down about 50 basis points. We are now talking about something in the 1%-2% range. We ran for the first half of this year about 1.5%. We ran 0.9% last year, so we are incrementally improving. I think the real opportunity, as I alluded to very briefly already, to see adjusted patient day growth in behavioral is in the outpatient side. We have been, primarily for most of our history, an inpatient-centric company. 90% of our revenues today are inpatient prior to the Talkspace acquisition. I think we believe that a lot of the demand is on the outpatient side in behavioral.

Steve FiltonCFO

We also believe that by growing in the behavioral, we will limit our exposure to Medicaid and become a more Medicare and commercial-centric company, which I think is a great way to set up the next few years as there is more pressure on Medicaid over the next several years. From a pricing perspective, we are talking about revenue growth in the behavioral business in the sort of 3%-5% range in our guidance. That is kind of 1%-2% volume, 2%-3% pricing. The 2%-3% pricing is a little bit lower than it has been over the last several years.

Steve FiltonCFO

I think it has been somewhat inflated, or it has been somewhat higher in the last several years as a result of Medicaid supplemental payments increasing over the last several years, as well as, I think, a bump in commercial payments as we came out of the pandemic and commercial contract pricing recognized sort of higher labor inflation and just higher inflation all around. That is largely, I think, how in the near medium term, we think about both the revenue growth of the behavioral business, both from a pricing and a volume perspective.

Craig HettenbachEquity Analyst

Got it. On the inpatient side, if I think about COVID, just some of the ups and downs, and there was some pressure on labor. How do things stand today in terms of some efforts you have made, whether it is on staffing and things like that?

Steve FiltonCFO

Yeah. So I mean, what we saw and I think your question alludes to, is during the pandemic, in particular, there was significant pressure on our behavioral volumes as a result of labor constraints. Very often, we couldn't admit patients because we had a lack of staff, and that could be nurses, could be therapists, could be non-professionals. But I think we've largely, first of all, I think the market has settled down post-COVID. The demand for providers in the sub-acute facilities from the acute facilities is not as great as it was during the pandemic. But also, we've been very focused on getting to an appropriate level of staffing. I think we added about 4% to our headcount last year. We added about 3% to our headcount in the first half of this year.

Steve FiltonCFO

We certainly still have a handful of markets, facilities that face labor constraints at any particular time. But I think that issue is, I'm going to say, largely behind us. And honestly, I think that headcount now will start to move much more in sync with demand and volumes, and as a consequence, that should be a help to our margins as well.

Craig HettenbachEquity Analyst

Got it. And you alluded to the 1.5% growth in the first half of the year, and for the full year, you're talking 1%-2%. How does that frame, if you will, a multi-year outlook? Is this the right run rate? Would be the first question. And then maybe as part of that, is there anything you've observed in the competitive landscape on the inpatient side of things?

Steve FiltonCFO

Yeah, I think that our view is that the inpatient business is a very solid, steady business, likely to grow, in small amounts. That 1%-2% that I think I would cite as a sort of near to midterm goal for us is really largely targeted at the inpatient volume. And again, what I would say is I think the upside for us is really on the outpatient side. I think that's where the demand is growing. I think patients more and more would prefer to be treated, if possible, on the outpatient side. I think payers and employers would prefer to see their subscribers and their employees treated on the outpatient side. It's less expensive if it's appropriate, clinically appropriate.

Steve FiltonCFO

Our goal, both with the Talkspace acquisition and with our own standing up of freestanding behavioral facilities, is really designed to capture more of that outpatient demand and outpatient growth over the next several years. That is, I think, where we have the opportunity to push that 1%-2% up in the mid and longer term.

Craig HettenbachEquity Analyst

Got it. Maybe before we shift over to the outpatient side of things, I do want to touch on just on the last call, you talked about San Antonio and the issue there. The question is in the context, is that kind of a one-off? Any other backstory there, and how you think about that coming back?

Steve FiltonCFO

Yeah. We have a facility in San Antonio, Texas, called Laurel Ridge, that lost its Medicare certification back in April. It was something that we believe was very much isolated to this facility and the regulators of this facility. We do not believe that it has ramifications or a read-through to the rest of the portfolio. We believe that we have a long history of regulatory compliance and quality patient care and safety. Our goal and our plan is at the Laurel Ridge facility, it has remained open throughout this time. We continue to treat patients, a small number of patients albeit. The reason we do that is it is an effort to continue to work with the regulators, state regulators, and CMS to get the facility re-licensed as quickly as possible.

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