Donaldson Company, Inc. Morgan Stanley's 14th Annual Laguna Conference
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Okay. Thanks everyone for joining us. For those that don't know me, Angel Castillo, Head of U.S. Machinery and Construction here at Morgan Stanley. Appreciate your time and appreciate Brad Pogalz, CFO of Donaldson, as well as Sarika Dhadwal, Head of IR at Donaldson, joining us today. Thank you both so much.
Happy to be here. Thank you.
Yeah. Maybe before we just get started, just a quick disclaimer. For important disclosures, please see Morgan Stanley Research Disclosure website at www.morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. If you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley representative. With that, Brad, if we could just dive right in. I think the best place that I was hoping we could kick off the discussion is just you've been in your seat now for nearly two years, and Rich has also been in his seat now as CEO for a little bit. Can you talk about how the strategy has evolved or changed now that Rich has had more time, and yourself to kind of settle into your seats and really absorb where the business is headed and whether to decide to make changes around the strategy.
Where do you see the opportunities to invest, to optimize, to change the direction, if at all? If you could just talk about that.
Sure. Maybe a bit of the background on it. I have been with the company for 11 years. Rich has been with the company for more than 20. One thing with the strategy, Rich has been a direct report of the CEO for a decade plus and definitely had a role in the strategy. I think what we are really optimistic and encouraged by is that our strategic priorities are largely unchanged. How we execute them and some of the focus areas, which I will go to, are things that we are going to evolve. As far as where we sit today, Donaldson is a leader in technology filtration. We have an underpinning of capabilities that gives us access to lots of markets using the filtration knowhow, and then availability and scale and customer relationships are a core part of how we drive value.
We are in good markets, so it is about continuing to look for those opportunities. The evolution, I think, is going to be on our portfolio and analysis and really the granularity of how we get into things. As we think about the next 5, 10 years for the company, it is about ensuring that every business has its role in the portfolio and every business earns its place in the company. Some of that looks like classic prioritization work, 80/20, and really managing long tails of things, focusing on the regions that make the most sense for the specific markets that we are in. The good news is Donaldson touches pretty much every corner of the economy, so our access to the world is very high, then it is about prioritizing choices within that.
I think a combination, largely organic growth, but also inorganic as we look for opportunities like the recently acquired Facet and getting more into aerospace and defense, making sure that we dig deeper or go deeper into the markets that are exciting for us.
No, that is very helpful, and I think you put it nicely, right? Donaldson touches every aspect of the economy, and I think with so much macro volatility, that is one thing I wanted to ask about, right?
Yeah. A lot of crosswinds from early signs of cyclical recovery with PMIs, et cetera, as well as just challenges around macro with interest rates, geopolitics.
Can you just remind us, with so much exposure to the broader economy, ultimately what are the factors or the aspects that you're watching most closely that are going to ultimately dictate or that are more important to track in terms of real implications to how your business ultimately performs?
Sure. The place to start on this that I think is important for the group is the composition of the company. About two-thirds of our revenue is recurring revenue, so a version of an aftermarket part across three segments. In our mobile solutions, things we watch are any measure of activity. So think about freight index or truck miles driven, farm activity, anything like that that helps drive aftermarket, which is about 80% of the mobile solutions business. Then new equipment production. We are in ag, mining, construction, and transportation. So to the extent that new equipment production is going up, that favors us well. Of course, right now, as probably everybody knows, it's looking better than it has in a while across all of these markets, especially with ag and transportation.
In the industrial space, again, any unit of activity is important, so IP is a very good measure that we tend to watch. About 50% of our industrial segment is some recurring revenue, and the places that I'm really focused on right now are more the CapEx goods and the project side. What I do want to delineate, though, is you almost have to look at our industrial businesses as data center versus non-data center right now. The data center side, things like power generation are doing very well, and we all see that. Then the other part of the business, new projects and new factories, brownfield, greenfield, those are the places that, again, look for industrial CapEx.
No, that's very helpful. You touched on it a little bit, but I guess hoping you could dive a little bit deeper into ultimately how the business with so much aftermarket tends to perform in a cyclical recovery. As you think about specifically the mobile solutions business, to the extent that you do start seeing more first fit, what are the implications? Do you tend to see a slowdown in the aftermarket? How does that typically behave in that part of the cycle? What are the implications in terms of your margins, your business financially?
Yeah, this is an important question. The OEs that we support, especially in mobile solutions, tend to have much more volatile production cycles on up cycles. It tends to go up maybe 10% or 20% or even 30% in discrete periods. So to the extent that we're at a recovery like that, what we tend to see is a bit more gross margin pressure that gets leveraged on SG&A. So earnings, cash earnings growth, but we might have a margin pressure there. I think what's important to note is in the last several years, we've changed our posture on pricing with OEs. We used to, in the 20-teens, be in more of a price down type of cycle. We haven't had a real, I'm going to put the post-COVID recovery aside, that was nuanced.
The last time we had more of this type of normal economic recovery pre-COVID, we would have seen more de-leveraging as a result of that OE growth.
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