Eastern Bankshares, Inc. Common Stock Barclays 24th Annual Global Financial Services Conference
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Great. Thanks. Sorry for the delay, but we are happy to continue the discussion this morning with Eastern Bankshares. We have Denis Sheahan, the CEO, and David Rosato, the CFO, joining us. Thanks very much, guys. Thanks for having us.
Thank you. I guess maybe starting off, Boston has really become one of the more competitive banking markets in the country.
It feels like with large nationals, super regionals, and wealth managers all trying to gain share. How would you characterize the competitive landscape today, and where do you think Eastern is best positioned to compete?
The Greater Boston market has always been very competitive. There are lots of smaller mutuals in the market. As a matter of fact, most of the mutuals in the country are in the New England region, so it's not unusual that we have a lot of competition. Yes, the larger organizations are there and have professed interest in coming into the region, if they're not already there. But we really like our position in the marketplace. We have $31 billion in banking assets. We're the number 4 in terms of deposit market share. We've a sizable and growing wealth and private banking business. The Eastern brand is so ingrained in the marketplace. It's our home turf. We work and live and make decisions right in that marketplace. The brand is very well-known, and we really like our position.
Several institutions have made significant investments in the market over the past few years. Have you seen any meaningful shifts in competitive behavior recently, either in deposits, commercial lending, or wealth management?
Not significant, with the possible exception of deposit pricing. Deposit pricing is elevated in the marketplace. We saw this trend in the back half of last year and continued into the first quarter. That's one area where we've definitely seen increase. The changes in competitive behavior would be in that segment.
When you're speaking with clients today, how would you describe sentiment? Are you seeing any change in sentiment given the changing rate outlook, or are they still moving forward with expansion and investment?
Well, I look at our business pipelines as sort of a leading indicator of customer sentiment. In both our commercial and wealth businesses, we are seeing very good activity. Particularly commercial, we have had record pipelines now in each of the last two quarters and good loan closings, and the pipeline continues to fill back up. It is remarkable. So we think that our customers are very resilient. They have gone through a lot in the past few years in terms of tariffs and shocks to energy prices, but they remain resilient, and we would categorize them, I think, as sort of cautiously optimistic. Those pipelines, though, are very robust and give us a degree of confidence about the back half of the year and really what our customers are seeing and feeling that they continue to want to lend or to borrow, excuse me.
On the wealth side of the business, we are also seeing very good activity in terms of net flows. So those to us are good, really concrete manifestations of customer sentiment.
Great. On the deposit side, deposit guidance was increased in the second quarter despite the highly competitive environment. What is driving the confidence in the stronger deposit outlook? What are you seeing to sort of support that?
Sure. I will take that one, Jared. When we decided to defend and grow market share and started pricing for that, it in essence woke up our customer base. It solidified or showed us once again the value of that deposit franchise. It is 130 branches, very dense footprint. Southern Vermont now into a little bit of a presence in Rhode Island. It is a great deposit franchise, and we are continuing to leverage it, and we have confidence that it will continue growing.
You talked about balancing deposit growth and margin performance, and on the call noted that money market balances continue to grow faster than CDs. As you think about deposit gathering today, what are customers telling you that they're valuing the most, and how are you balancing that growth of deposits with protecting profitability?
There is a clear preference for liquidity. Customers are responding, and flows are supporting money market specials over CD pricing, for example. Our CDs have been relatively flat year to date. Money market is where most of the growth has been. Then in money markets, it's really across all the major businesses as well, whether that's retail or commercial or private banking. The challenge obviously with a little heightened deposit competition is maintenance of the margin. The backup in interest rates is helping fixed rate repricing story, whether that's securities portfolio or the fixed rate loan book. That's a multi-year story there. Some of that positive income is being offset on the deposit side. But net net, I think it's a small positive for us over the next couple of years.
As you look out over those years, what does the optimal deposit mix look like for Eastern? How do you balance the opportunity for overall growth with improving mix and commercial operating balances?
The mix, we're really focused in. You think on the asset side of the balance sheet, the portfolio that's growing the most significantly for us, and this is by design, is the C&I category. Good relationship-based C&I lending that will bring more commercial deposits will be a focus for us. I think hopefully you'll see us do more in that category with good treasury management services along with it. Then understanding the demographics of the marketplace. The Northeast and Massachusetts in particular is high net worth, high household income, are favorable demographics. Perhaps population growth is not. We'll continue to lean into that private banking wealth management segment. More of our deposits, we think, will skew in that commercial category and in the private banking wealth management segment.
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