Bunge Global SA Barclays 19th Annual Global Consumer Conference
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We are good to go. All right. Perfect. Welcome back. Next on stage, we are pleased to have Bunge's management team with us after missing out for a couple of years, given the Viterra transaction in the past. Now, with us today, Greg Heckman, company's CEO, as well as John Neppl, Bunge's CFO. With no further ado, let's get into it on the questions. Now, maybe starting with the broader landscape, obviously ongoing conflict, Middle East and the Black Sea regions. We are seeing shift in global trade dynamics as well as weather concerns, which might be drought in Europe, the Super El Niño. There is a lot of uncertainty, which seems to be the new normal. How does the addition of Viterra make Bunge better positioned to navigate such volatility and actually continue to deliver for customers and shareholders?
Thanks for having us today. Great to be here again, great to be on stage again with you. It really has helped us in every way. I think there has been no better capabilities added for our risk management, for our customers, both the farmers and the consumers of feed, food, and fuel, than the diversification that we got with the merger, with the combination of Viterra and Bunge. Because we are now in every key producing region. We touch more farmers directly than anyone else. This gave us not only the diversification across geography, but we now have diversification across grains and oilseeds that we need to serve our customers. So whether it is the challenge that you mentioned on whether it is trade war, the actual wars, weather issues, we just have more origins, more destinations, a better, more complete team in order to be able to solve those problems.
Okay. As we take that and maybe look into the second half and your adjusted EPS outlook, which was slightly raised during the second quarter call, what gave you the confidence in terms of the EPS uptick, and where do you see the biggest factors that could drive maybe reaching the higher end of it, and what are the risks for you would say this could be then in the lower end?
You want to start? Yeah, I can start.
So look, as we got through Q2, and we looked at the balance of the year, number one is we felt very good about where we performed up through the first half. I think we felt like we had some good momentum in the business. We looked ahead at the balance of the year, and we saw good S&D drivers. Ultimately, our RVO clarity hadn't been totally resolved yet, but we felt like the industry was ramping up. There was good demand for soybean oil, there was good demand for meal.
We saw improving results in various places in the world, and I think the resilience of our team and how they looked at the balance of the year, even though maybe a little bit less clarity and visibility into Q4, we felt like Q3 was largely locked at that point and saw a path to get to the number we gave, the $9.25 to $9.75 range. Yeah, I think a lot of it had to do with what we felt like the range of likely outcomes for the balance of the year. We felt pretty good about where we were.
I think it's also worth noting, we just passed a year in July since closing the transaction. While it took a couple of years to get through regulatory, which was very helpful for the integration planning, and I think it's helped the integration go so smooth. Remember, the commercial teams couldn't start to work on commercial synergies, start thinking about optimizing the footprint, making sure that we had the right people in the right roles until we closed the transaction. We've been doing that work for the last year. Also as we've gotten some of the reps together with the team in a challenging environment, also you remember Viterra was private, and so forecasting not as important as for a public company.
As we brought the teams together and the systems and processes and began to do that work, that's also been helpful in giving us visibility and confidence in going forward.
Okay. Sticking to that, and obviously a big driver of results right now is a fairly strong setup in soybean processing. You've laid out earlier in the year that $45-$47 crush margin as a mid-cycle assumption. How sensitive is actually that level for biofuel policy versus just underlying food fuel demand without policy? And where would you say we're shaking out right now compared to that baseline assumption?
Yeah, I can start, Greg.
Sure. The first thing is the 45 to 47 is sort of a framework that we built thinking about history.
We looked back five years, what were the dynamics? We saw highs and lows in a five-year period. So we looked at averages and said, okay, in all the regions we operate globally, what were the dynamics during that five-year period, and what do we feel like probably was as best we could figure out a normalized level of margin. Then looking forward, what did we expect structurally? Was there an inherent change in a given geography that might drive a structural change going forward? As well, we looked at our RVO policy and everything else, and we came up with what we felt like in each region was ultimately a likely ongoing average margin.
Also too, where would it need to be to provide the right return on assets to incent expansion if it was needed at some point? So we look at all these factors, a little bit of art, a little bit of science. We plugged that into the model, and obviously a big piece of that, or a portion that can impact that is certainly the policy around RVO, biofuel policy in general, globally. I think today we look at it in the U.S., and what's come out recently is certainly performing above what we consider that average baseline. We're above that in the U.S. and Canada, for example, but there's parts of the world where we're below it.
Today, on weighted average, we feel pretty good about where we're there, in total, just the pieces are a little bit different than maybe how we modeled it. But again, those are going to change, continue to change. But I think we feel like that's a pretty good guideline for how we think about it going forward.
Probably one of the other important things when we were modeling going forward and what was different, when you think about Bunge pre-Viterra, we were the largest global oilseed crusher, but we were really underrepresented in Argentina. In Viterra, they had the largest, lowest cost soy crushing facility sitting in Argentina, Renova, but they were running it really on kind of an island. We were able to plug that into our global system, and now as we do our analysis and we're looking where we commit crush, and we're running our global soy crush origination, processing, refining, and distribution system, we're able to run our value chains end-to-end with Argentina in there. Of course, as we all know, the business environment and the direction that the farmer has gotten, Argentina has continued to improve overall.
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