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Brian MullanAnalyst

Okay. Hello. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for being here. My name is Brian Mullan. I'm the restaurant and food distribution analyst here at Piper Sandler. Very pleased to have Papa Johns with me today on stage. I've got the CEO, Todd Penegor. We've also got a few other members of the team in the audience. Todd, thank you for being here.

Brian MullanAnalyst

Our pleasure, Brian. I think maybe a place to start, on the most recent earnings call, one of the things you talked about was seeing an opportunity to strengthen Papa John's value perception.

Brian MullanAnalyst

Maybe just to frame this all in a good place to start a discussion, maybe talk about what you think has been accomplished thus far on value throughout the transformation plan, and then from here, where do you still see opportunities to continue to improve Papa John's value perception moving forward, and how you're going to go about doing that?

Todd PenegorPresident and CEO

That's a great question. Papa John's has always been known for quality. We get a lot of credit for better ingredients, better pizza, and folks still say that to this day. They just really don't understand why we're truly better than the competitive set. When I first got here a couple of years ago, we got a little out of position on value. People saw us as more of the premium QSR pizza player. We made some moves. We had to go back to a barbell strategy and make sure that we had the news on the top end with some innovation and an appropriate price point for that innovation. We had to make sure the bottom end of the barbell was set well, and Papa Pairings became a prominent placement on our menu so we could play a good high-low.

Todd PenegorPresident and CEO

We had to build a strong loyalty program that had true value for our 43 million-plus members, so we revamped the loyalty program to make sure there was true value there for the consumer, and started to make some real good progress. Our quality metrics, as we focused on being the best pizza makers in the business, continued to improve. Our value for the money had continued to improve, and we were making a lot of progress up through the second quarter of last year. In fact, the second quarter of last year, we were positive on sales and transactions in the first time in quite some time. Then the competitive landscape switched, right? Deep discounting, not just the major QSR pizza players, but across the broader QSR segment. We were fighting the battle truly on value from a national calendar perspective.

Todd PenegorPresident and CEO

Our national promotions drive 20%, 25% of our business. We are running the high low and the barbell from the national side of the equation. With co-ops being disbanded and local spending being discretionary, we weren't fighting the full barbell from both a national and a local level. What we ended up doing over the course of this year, and with added incent to reestablish some co-ops, we've now got 50% of our markets up with a co-op. They're contributing 2% local spend in those markets. We incented it with a 1% contribution to the co-op as a top-off.

Todd PenegorPresident and CEO

It really allows us to then have a coordinated message, not just in the DMA and in that co-op, but then how do you have a complementary message to what you're doing on the national calendar to make sure you're really telling the high-low story nationally and locally to optimize the P&L and the four-wall profitability. That's work that we still have in front of us to get more of the system set up in co-ops, and I'm sure we can talk about that here in a little bit. But those are things where we've made some nice progress. The ongoing journey is really how do we continue to elevate the quality of our food? How do we have the appropriate dough for the equipment that we have now in the restaurant?

Todd PenegorPresident and CEO

What do we need to do to make sure that we're delivering consistently with the quality that our consumer deserves every day, not just on the food, but through the whole digital experience? There's a lot of work underway to continue to elevate that experience to make sure it's not just about price. It's about worth what you pay. People want us and know us for quality, but we got to deliver quality at an affordable price, and that's where our system's really focused at the moment.

Brian MullanAnalyst

Okay. Thank you. There was some news last week about a new partnership with Walmart Express Delivery. Maybe just share a bit about how that came together, how it will work, what you are hoping to see from that.

Todd PenegorPresident and CEO

We have talked a lot about what are the opportunities to really expand our TAM and think about where the total addressable market could go. We started with some early discussions with Walmart to figure out where does our footprint sit, where is their footprint? Is there some complementary opportunities where a brand with our quality halo could really help with their Walmart Express consumer. We had a lot of work to do from a technology perspective, and ultimately, we have now become their first off-premise restaurant brand. We are going to participate with them in the Walmart Express program. If you think you want a home-prepared meal from Walmart, and you also want to pick up some other home essentials, but you want a pizza delivered, they will be that fulfillment arm for us to make sure that they can deliver that pizza to you at good economics.

Todd PenegorPresident and CEO

Their everyday low pricing, they are trying to make sure that they have got pricing that the consumer can achieve in that channel that would be similar to buying it from the restaurant, so effectively without the markups. We think we are a really good partner to do that. We got a lot of pilots with them in the back half of this year, so we will really start to see the significant impact of bringing in and connecting to customers that might not otherwise have connected to our brand through that channel into next year. We think it would be a nice tailwind to our business.

Brian MullanAnalyst

Okay. Very good. Just a question on operations. On the last earnings call, you talked about seeing a 400 basis point gap between the top and bottom quintile operators. I think you talked about building a brand standards coaching team, which I had not heard you discuss that before. Just give us a little history and context. Is that gap wider than it used to be, or maybe is that an unusually wide gap? Talk about the strategy at corporate right now in terms of helping the franchise system get better at operations.

Todd PenegorPresident and CEO

Yeah. The gap has been widening, and any brand is only as good as the lowest common denominator. What we really need to do is raise the floor, because inconsistency is the Achilles heel for the quality promise that any brand makes day in and day out. What we had to do is make sure that we had more touch points with our restaurants. As Marc Richard came into the organization, we reorganized our field team in a regional support manner so we could get more touch points into each of the individual restaurants. He brought in some really talented senior directors to partner with our DVPs in each of the regions. Then we really brought in some pizza experts to be the brand standard coaches.

Todd PenegorPresident and CEO

They not only do the restaurant evaluations, but they're spending some really quality time in the restaurants, side by side, helping training, helping coaching, make sure that we're creating a great experience. We really saw that we needed that role to help us as we started to innovate a lot more at the beginning of this year. We hadn't had innovation in quite some time. Our innovation calendar was relatively bare, and as we started to introduce new products like the pan pizza or sandwiches or even Toy Story, we started to realize that we did need some really good coaching out in the field. We did a lot of mystery shops. We've done a lot of evaluations.

Todd PenegorPresident and CEO

We did get a real push from our franchise community, help us help ourselves get better and help us raise that floor, because we do know that when folks say, "Hey, I'd love to go to that Papa Johns," that means there's another one in town that they're going to stay away from, and that just can't be, because we all get lumped into that overall service experience. The team's been doing a nice job. A lot of work still to do to raise that floor. But it's a big opportunity with that 400 basis point comp gap between the bottom quintile and the top quintile. I think we're making progress, and we'll continue to work that over the upcoming months and quarters.

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