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Eric SchmidtAnalyst

Bit early, but we can get started. Welcome back to the Cantor Conference, everyone. My name is Eric Schmidt. Delighted to be hosting our next presenting company, Alumis. We've got Martin, the CEO, and Jörn, the CMO. I know we've got a lot to talk about coming off some data just last week. Before we get into envudeucitinib, the company's next generation TYK2 inhibitor, and the Alumis Phase IIb results in lupus that came out, let's start with the high level, Martin, and just remind everyone what the key attributes of the company are and how you're going to create some shareholder value going forward.

Martin BablerCEO

Thank you, Eric, and thanks for having us. We're a precision immunology company based in the Bay Area. We're about five years old now, and our two clinical assets are actually TYK2 inhibitors. We do have a pipeline behind that that we haven't shared yet, but it's also focused on precision immunology. Our lead program is envudeucitinib, and envudeucitinib just reported basically one-year data in psoriasis. We're planning on presenting some additional data at EADV in a couple of weeks, and then also file an NDA for envudeucitinib in plaque psoriasis for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis in the fourth quarter of this year. That is a business that we believe is already in itself quite valuable. I believe, to be honest with you, it's not really reflected in our stock price today.

Martin BablerCEO

What we've shown with envudeucitinib is very good activity in plaque psoriasis for an oral drug. There's a couple of features that probably are unique and differentiating for what we've shown, and that is that we have very strong effects, not just on plaque psoriasis and the plaques themselves, but also on quality of life, on itch and other factors that we believe play a key role in the well-being of psoriasis patients. The second indication we started envudeucitinib in is lupus. We reported out last week that while we did not hit the primary endpoints, we learned a lot in this trial. It was a Phase II trial in terms of how we might move forward, and we certainly spend a little bit more time discussing about that. We have a second TYK2 inhibitor in A-005.

Martin BablerCEO

This is a brain-penetrant TYK2 inhibitor that we intend to take into a Parkinson's biomarker study in 2027.

Eric SchmidtAnalyst

Maybe before we get too deep into the applications for TYK2 inhibition, just high level, why TYK2 inhibition? What does this solve in I&I indications that others can't do?

Martin BablerCEO

Yeah. So our initial interest actually was really piqued by a lot of really strong genomic data. TYK2 has a couple of key mutations that are very telling actually about the mechanism itself. One of those mutations specifically, it's a P1104A mutation. Actually, it's a mutation where you down-regulate the kinase function of TYK2, very similar to what we do in the clinic. When people are carriers of that mutation, actually, they're highly protected against autoimmune disease. In the case of many of these indications, especially those patients who have two copies of these alleles, so have a very strong down-regulation of TYK2, they have about an 80% reduced chance to have psoriasis or lupus or other autoimmune disease. On average, these protections, even with a single copy of this mutation, is between 20% and 40% protective effect.

Martin BablerCEO

So we've always felt that that would be a good indicator for what we might see in the clinic. The second piece is that there's actually no phenotype when you have this mutation. So most people don't know that they have this mutation. So we felt if you down-regulate the kinase function of TYK2, you should actually have a very safe drug, and you should have a very effective drug. We certainly have shown that in psoriasis, and other people have shown that in psoriatic arthritis, in CLE, in SLE. Currently, the TYK2 inhibitors are actually studied in about 10 other indications, or 10 indications in total. So we believe that there's a broad opportunity for TYK2 across many autoimmune diseases that are affected by either the IL-23 or the interferon pathway.

Eric SchmidtAnalyst

Okay, let's start with SLE, and then we can progress to some of the pre-commercial preparations around psoriasis and your strategy there. But the data last week, as you mentioned, Martin, weren't what you had hoped. What are the key learnings from that story?

Jörn DrappaChief Medical Officer

Yeah. So this was a Phase 2b dose-ranging trial that tested three active doses of envudeucitinib against placebo. Primary endpoint was BICLA at week 48. Bottom line was that the primary as well as key secondary endpoints were not met in the overall population. The key learning was that there is a well-understood subpopulation that, in fact, many other trials have looked at, which is characterized by elevated expression of type I interferon-regulated genes, or the so-called interferon signature. In this subpopulation, we saw a very robust response. The obverse subpopulation to type I interferon signature negative was, as had previously been reported, characterized by very high placebo responses and really no observable treatment effect.

Jörn DrappaChief Medical Officer

As we set out to design and conduct this trial, we decided not to exclude type I interferon negative patients, because at that time, there was no a priori evidence that these patients would not at least derive some benefit from the treatment, even though it was already known from the anifrolumab experience that they were likely to have higher placebo responses. So instead, we decided to stratify and analyze it. Unfortunately, it did turn out that we enrolled an unexpectedly high proportion of these interferon negative or interferon signature negative patients. Typically, they constitute roughly 30% of the overall moderate to severe lupus population. In our trial, they were close to 40%.

Jörn DrappaChief Medical Officer

Among this subpopulation that constituted 40%, there were very high placebo response rates and no observable treatment response, and that was an effect that was sufficiently large to render the overall all-comers population negative.

Eric SchmidtAnalyst

What was startling about the data as I saw it, Jörn, is just the high placebo response rate in that interferon negative Yeah population, and much higher than the drug arm in terms of response rate.

Eric SchmidtAnalyst

Yes. Is there any viable explanation having pondered the data now for probably several days?

Jörn DrappaChief Medical Officer

Yeah. We're still basically in the process of digging through the data to see whether for example, any particular ethnicities, any races, any geographies contributed disproportionately to this. I think to some extent it is randomness and bad luck, as we have seen this in prior trials, including in the PAISLEY trial of deucravacitinib where there was a negative treatment effect in the subgroup in one arm, a positive in the other arm, and a neutral effect in the third arm. So there's just a lot of variability and randomness specifically in this subpopulation. And it appears that the type I IFN negative population is just a very heterogeneous sort of Gemisch of different underlying disease pathophysiologies.

Eric SchmidtAnalyst

This isn't your first lupus study. Given what you know about the indication and this IFN negative subpopulation, did you consider making this trial LUMUS-focused in terms of the statistical considerations on the IFN, interferon gene signature high patient population? Could that have been an option?

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