RXO, Inc. Jefferies Global Industrials Conference 2026
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All right. I think we're good to go. All right. Well, good morning, everybody. Welcome to Jefferies' 2026 Industrials Conference. My name is Stephanie Moore. I'm Jefferies' Transportation and Business Services analyst. We're really pleased to have RXO with us today. We have Jared Weisfeld, Chief Strategy Officer, and then obviously Drew Wilkerson is also here with us today, their CEO. Format will just be a fireside chat, and we'll kick it off from there. We appreciate you all joining. Thanks, guys, for being here.
Thanks for having us. Well, I'm going to start with the topic that is of most recent to everyone.
You put out an 8-K and a press release this morning, I believe, talking about the strength that you've been seeing quarter to date through August. Maybe, Jared, if you want to touch a little bit about what you put out in the release this morning and maybe just the overall freight environment as this quarter has progressed.
Sure. Thanks for having us, Steph. This morning, we put out a release where we provided a positive update on our brokerage business based on the trends that we're seeing quarter to date, and if you break it down across both gross profit per load and truckload volume. From a gross profit per load standpoint, our expectation on earnings in August was that gross profit per load would decline throughout the quarter. In fact, we're seeing the exact opposite. In the month of August, we saw gross profit per load increase by more than 10% when compared to July, and that's a function of a few different things. Number one, spot continues to remain robust for RXO, now at about 50% of the mix despite soft freight market conditions, which speaks to the ability to capture incremental spots, projects, and mini bids across the company.
We're also seeing us procure transportation quite effectively, which is helping us in terms of buy rates throughout the quarter to date. We're also just seeing continued momentum in the business with respect to capitalizing on those opportunities. You put all that together, we're seeing strong improvement on gross profit per load. Despite soft freight market conditions, we're still seeing truckload volume up low to mid-single digits year-on-year for the quarter, which is in line with our expectations during earnings last month. I know there's been a lot of concern in the industry just based on Cass Freight Index, overall spot rates weakening over the last six weeks. Despite that, I think it's a testament to the pipeline that we see in the company, the opportunities that we're executing on. It's the investment thesis of RXO. We're taking share. We're doing it profitably.
We're growing gross profit per load, and those are all above expectations that we outlined during last quarter earnings.
Thank you. Appreciate it. Maybe just as one final follow-up to that, could you remind us the Q3 guidance that you provided? What was the underlying assumption for gross profit per load at the midpoint?
Sure. $35 million to $45 million of adjusted EBITDA was the outlook for Q3. From a gross profit per load standpoint, we had talked about our expectation for gross profit per load to decline from July through September. To reiterate what I just said with respect to the trends that we've seen in the first two months of the quarter, not only did they not decline, they increased by over 10% sequentially from July to August. The one other factor that I forgot to mention prior was that we're continuing to phase in new contract rates. Those higher contract rates, we expect, will be a tailwind throughout the remainder of this year into 2027 as well.
Great. Well, thank you for the update. I think that while there's a lot to talk about, especially obviously the strength of your business and then the underlying industry backdrop, I think most of the questions that I've been receiving over the last couple weeks, and I'm sure you have as well, has just been in the wake of a large Supreme Court ruling, Montgomery, as well as some headlines about potential nuclear verdicts. I think as a whole, obviously, the market is really discounting broker equities here because of this, what I would say is kind of a tail risk as it relates to insurance costs or legal costs. Maybe to start here, how would you help us better understand this potential tail risk?
I'd say the first thing is you have to realize that not everybody is starting from the same starting point. When you look at the tower of insurance that we've got, it already runs up to $100 million. That is similar to what you would see in most large asset-based carriers. There's only one other brokerage out there that I'm aware of that has the similar type coverage. A lot of other top five, top 10 brokers are going to have a long way to go just to be able to catch up to the same coverage that we have at RXO. The second thing that I'd say is when you start to look at our rating and what we're hearing from our insurance providers is that we have less claims, less accidents than what you even see in the asset-based world.
When you look at our vetting process, that's something that has differentiated us for a long time. We built the business on just-in-time shipments. We built it on high cargo value shipments. When you look at how you vet carriers there, that you have to be differentiated in the quality of carriers that you're using. For us, our insurance providers have told us, "You have less claims. You have less accidents," especially whenever you look at it per 100 million miles than what is going on in the industry. The feedback that we've got right now is that we are going to do considerably better than what is out there in market.
Thank you. Appreciate that. I think that if you look at this most recent verdict that came out of Texas that's impacted one of your peers, I think there was two pretty interesting points that came out of it. The first was that the vetted carrier actually had a satisfactory rating, which is actually a very good satisfactory rating, which is very hard, from my understanding, to actually obtain. The second was that the driver was deemed an employee of the broker despite the fact that it was actually not a W2 employee. It seems like there needs to be some kind of federal vetting standards, or there needs to be some kind of overarching influence that's coming in here in this environment. How would you just talk about the overall regulatory or federal landscape in this kind of post-Montgomery world?
Sure, I could start. So, agreed. I think it is important. I think the administration understands that ultimately having a nationwide standard makes a ton of sense. To your point, Steph, 92% of carriers remain unrated. I think having the resources and dedication to put something like that in place makes a ton of sense. But I think it is also important to realize that at RXO, that is not something that we are just waiting for it to happen. We need to make sure that we are proactively making sure that we have got the right carrier base, incredibly strict vetting compliance from a standard standpoint. What it takes to haul a load for RXO is a lot, and we put in limitations in terms of, you start a carrier authority, you cannot drive and haul a load for RXO within the first 90 days.
That first load that gets booked needs to be vetted by a human. We then leverage other third-party platforms as well to help in terms of carrier onboarding and vetting. So I think it is a pretty robust process that we have in place. No doubt about it, we would, of course, support nationwide standards. But I also think the administration and DOT, FMCSA very much understands that having free, frictionless trade across all contiguous 48 states is something that is necessary for the U.S. economy. It is not just a brokerage issue. It is a broader transportation issue.
I think I agree with everything that Jared said, but one of the points that you made was about the employee. When you are hauling loads for multiple brokerages, how are you an employee of the company? It is not something that is even logical. So I think for us, we do not think that it is something that will get upheld, and we think we stand on the side that most of these companies, if not all of these companies, do not want to be employees for us. They want the ability to go drive for somebody else. They want the ability to haul a load for one of our competitors so that they can find the right load for their truck at that given time.
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