Neuropace, Inc. Common Stock Wells Fargo 21st Annual Healthcare Conference
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All right. Good morning. My name is Ross Osborn. I am on the med tech team at Wells Fargo. This morning we have NeuroPace, and from the company, we have the CFO, Patrick Williams, and the Head of Investor Relations, Scott Schaper. Thanks for being here. Thank you.
Good morning. Jumping right in.
NeuroPace has consistently highlighted the significant under-penetration of the drug-resistant epilepsy market. Where do you believe the largest barriers remain today? Diagnosis, referral patterns, physician awareness?
I think it is a little bit of all of it. At the end of the day, the product has been on the market for a little over 10 years. Neuromodulation is clearly an area, we describe it as the next frontier in terms of medical device and medicine. If you think about the number of patients that are out there is about 3.6 million people in the U.S. that suffer from epilepsy. About 1.2 million of them are drug resistant. Only about 75,000 or so will actually make it to what we call a Level 4 comprehensive epilepsy center. Of that 75 amount, 15,000 will actually get some sort of medical intervention. It is an extremely under-penetrated market.
Where we see the biggest opportunity is the ability to continue to drive within those Level 4 CECs, and get more adoption within each account. But at the same time, trying to increase not only the number of patients that go to a Level 4, but also the number of patients that eventually go and get some sort of neuromodulation. I think a big part of it is awareness. I think, when we hear stories about patients that have suffered from epilepsy for years, decades, one of the first things you ever hear them say is, "I wish I knew about these options sooner." I am sure we will talk about IGE and some other things and some of the adoption dynamics, but I would say overall awareness within the patient community needs to be higher, as well as within the physician community.
We are beginning to start that.
Great. Maybe while we are here, walk through Project CARE, how that is going, what else remains for you guys to do.
Yeah. We started, probably, maybe over almost two years ago. The thought behind that was to focus on how do we get more awareness in the channel, especially out in the community setting. I mentioned this concept of a Level 4 comprehensive epilepsy center, a Level 4 CEC. For patients to get to there is only about 250 of those across the U.S., so if you are not in a major metropolitan area or further away, then how do we get you, right? How does a doctor be able to advise you on what your options are? At the same time, we started Project CARE, and the concept behind that was more in the community setting. We haven't broken it out as much in terms of the number of patients we see.
I think that gets down to what we are seeing is really the adoption dynamics related to the indication we have today. Right now, we are indicated for adult focal epilepsy. Most of those patients, just because of the nature of that disease state, they do require to go to a Level 4 because they require a full workup, including what we call a stereo EEG at the end of phase II, is what we call it. Fairly invasive, time-consuming step in order to identify where exactly the epilepsy is happening within the brain.
As we think about other expanding indications, which I know we will talk about, we think the adoption dynamics there will be much more favorable, and that is where Project CARE could really take off, because we will be able to potentially bypass that phase II, sEEG, and that will be a big driver, we believe, of adoption and awareness as we go forward.
Great. Before we get to IGE, maybe walk through RNS, your system, and how that differentiates from other offerings on market.
Yeah. You want to take that one, Scott?
Sure. It is a neurostimulator cranial implant that is continuously monitoring, recording, and analyzing each patient's individual physiology. And in doing so, allows the patient to have tailored therapy and lead placement exactly where the seizure onset or the seizure network is focused, which allows personalized therapy over time, which you see in our clinical data, which we believe is best in class, as well as the data that's generated from the device. So like I said, it's continuously monitoring, recording each patient's EEG patterns. And over time, that allows the physician to better understand lead placement as well as their individual disease state, which you see also in our clinical data that allows our results to get better as the therapy gets tailored.
Great. And then I guess over time, is there a role for different neuromodulation devices within epilepsy, whether that's focal or generalized? Or do you see RNS taking most of the share?
Yeah. So, maybe just to tell everyone what the other options are within the competitive space. The largest shareholder is a vagus nerve stimulation known as VNS, which LivaNova has that. And then a similar type of brain stimulation is Medtronic's DBS, deep brain stimulation. That is a pectoral implant as well. We're a cranial implant. And then, what I would call we're the other medical device with a neuromodulation, RNS. And then the fourth option would be a medical intervention, which is usually some sort of resection. Look, we probably, people can look at our numbers. We're probably less than, depending on the quarter, 15%-20% of that. Overall 15,000 that are happening in a year in terms of patients. And we believe that there's clearly a market share opportunity for us to continue to take market share.
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