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Larry BiegelsenMedical Device Analyst

Gilson, the medical device analyst at Wells Fargo, and it is my pleasure to host this fireside chat with the management team from Insulet. With us, we have Ashley McEvoy, President and CEO, and Flavia Pease, Executive Vice President and CFO, and Clare Trachtman, Head of Investor Relations. Ashley and Flavia, thanks so much for being here.

Ashley McEvoyPresident and CEO

Thanks, Larry. Thanks, Larry. Pleasure.

Larry BiegelsenMedical Device Analyst

Ashley, it is hard not to start with the Q2 update. Let us start there. You took down guidance because of three issues, lower retention and utilization in type 2, lower new starts due to softness in Q1, and less pricing. Two-thirds of the change was due to the type 2 issue, and probably the number one question we have been getting, and my guess is you, why was this such a surprise?

Ashley McEvoyPresident and CEO

Larry, first of all, it's great to be here in Boston, our hometown. Before I get into the timing and the data, let me just first share our perspective on the type 2 market, which we see as a tremendous growth opportunity for Omnipod, as well as the AID category. It's the largest TAM in the category with the lowest penetration. If you look at the 2.5 million people who are using basal bolus insulin, AID has around a 5% penetration, and CGM is well north of 50% plus in that area. In the basal-only population, we have the indication we haven't yet promoted that, and CGM is around 30% penetration. So collectively, that represents about a $28 billion TAM.

Ashley McEvoyPresident and CEO

The second is the American Diabetes Association guidelines recommend AID for people with type 2 diabetes because that has a superior clinical and economic value proposition to MDI patients. We pioneered this indication on behalf of the industry. We have tens of thousands of very satisfied Podders with type 2 diabetes, and so we are very committed to nailing the first 90 days so more people can benefit. As you know, we enjoy a reoccurring revenue business model, so it's really about the lifetime value of the patient. Now, when it comes to timing and the data, Larry, we saw late in Q2 some of the trends start to elevate versus our expectations. We did a very strong forensic. We identified with the root cause. We've implemented actions on those. One of the areas that we've innovated on is really the transparency and the frequency of some of our KPIs.

Ashley McEvoyPresident and CEO

Attrition, as one example, is a bit of a lagging indicator. It allows for people to have a pump holiday, if you will, and so we've addressed that, of looking at some of the more real-time data of our KPIs. I will tell you it's early on. It's been less than 30 days, and some of these programs are going to have time before they have a durable fact. So in the headline, I'd say this is an execution challenge, nothing to do with the structural advantage or attraction of the market, and we're acting with urgency.

Larry BiegelsenMedical Device Analyst

That's helpful. Why was there an uptick at the you just mentioned a minute ago an uptick at the end of Q2? Why do you think there was an uptick?

Ashley McEvoyPresident and CEO

Yeah. I would say it happened, we saw it trending ahead of our expectations at an elevated rate in Q2. We've identified several root causes of why we saw some elevated attrition levels, and we're taking actions. Those five actions I spoke about on the Q2 call, I'm happy to elaborate more.

Larry BiegelsenMedical Device Analyst

That's helpful. Yep, we definitely want to hear about the actions and the progress. First, the math. Historically, we've had about a 10% attrition rate in our model for Insulet when you were mostly a type 1 company. You also on the call confirmed that type 2 attrition runs at least double type 1. So it looks like the type 2 attrition is, by our math, close to 40%, which is pretty high. Are we in the right ballpark? Again, maybe now, talk about the progress you're making turning to addressing that.

Ashley McEvoyPresident and CEO

Yeah. Again, we've been at type 1 for 25 years. We're newer to type 2. When we were setting our expectations, we studied the CGM analogs. Again, they've been at serving the type 2 community, both basal bolus as well as basal only, for more years than we have. We looked at what good would look like. We, again, as I said, we saw an elevation versus that. They're not near the levels that you mentioned, Larry. Importantly, we're getting after that. Again, we have a reoccurring revenue model, so it's worth it for us to nail the first 90 days. As I shared, the demand is really strong, and the data will show that once we get them past 90 days, retention rates really stabilize. So there's several things that we're doing. The first thing is sampling.

Ashley McEvoyPresident and CEO

We deployed a sample program to kind of demystify the fear of trying AID therapy. The vast majority of the volume in AID is coming from the MDI category, and so for some, there's a fear factor of wearing insulin on your body. So we deployed samples. We uncovered, when we did a territory analysis, that in certain territories that we had a prescription that accompanied the sample, and when we adjudicated the health insurance, we had much higher retention rates. So we've tightened up that best practice and are now deploying that across the country. The second thing we did is related to our sales force incentives. Again, going from a type 1 company to a type 2, we needed to evolve.

Ashley McEvoyPresident and CEO

We are still ensuring that we have good quality new customer starts, but we are also going to hold them accountable for durable starts that first month, that first 30 days. I was in the field last week. They are very enthusiastic to win with the company on patient success. We have augmented our customer service reps to make sure that we have the right kind of resourcing and staffing. We have also added clinical retention specialists that we are now deploying in the field. Then we have launched a new data platform, which enables really strong patient engagement and clinician engagement, and that is called Omnipod Discover. In our limited market review that we were doing in quarter two, we had around 12,000 people with diabetes in the program and around 1,600 clinicians. We saw not only just stronger customer satisfaction, but we saw elevated retention levels.

Ashley McEvoyPresident and CEO

It is worth it for us to nail the first 90 days. We see a tremendous opportunity of growth ahead of us.

Larry BiegelsenMedical Device Analyst

That is helpful. Okay, I have to go back to the 40%, which you said was too high, because we have used 10% for type 1, and when we talked after the Q2 call, you said that the blended U.S. attrition is likely higher than mid-teens. We just tried to back into the 40%. Help me understand where my assumptions are wrong.

Ashley McEvoyPresident and CEO

No, I think we said that it is more than double. It is trending more than double that. We do not disclose what our retention rates are now. It is something that we are looking at maniacally, so have confidence in that. We are going to talk more about how these programs are progressing on the quarter three call. But importantly, we are looking, Larry, at what our active customer base. All of our data goes to the cloud, so we can see live time the health of what our active customer base is and then see the flows in and out. You will see us continue to start to drive the business more on real live time data sources.

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