Cognizant Technology Solutions Citi’s 2026 Global TMT Conference
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Welcome. I'm Bryan Keane. I cover IT services here at Citi, and we're excited to have Cognizant here for a fireside chat. We got Jatin Dalal, who's the CFO, and we're going to run through a list of questions. If you have any in the audience, feel free to raise your hand and we'll run a mic or I'll repeat the question for you. First, Jatin, thanks for coming and thanks for being here.
No, thank you. Thank you for hosting us. I appreciate the opportunity. Yeah.
I wanted to start high level thinking about the IT services industry. It's growing revenue well below its historical norms. How much do you think can be explained by the geopolitical turmoil versus the secular industry pressures from AI?
I think it's an interesting question to start. If you see, the industry has seen now more than a few years or 2 or 3 years of slow growth. In our assessment, it is partially the secular pressure, but it's also the lack of discretionary spend because, for example, in BFSI, Cognizant grew double digit in Q2, and that was notwithstanding the secular pressure because of AI-led productivity, and everything else that is going around the world. So I think it is some amount of secular pressure, but it is also largely the lack of discretionary spend in the rest of the sector, which is leading to a low growth phase for the industry as we see.
How would you characterize the demand environment then, the discretionary spend environment, demand environment in general from maybe last year to the beginning of this year to over the last month or two?
No, absolutely. The BFSI sector continues to be a robust performer, robust enabler, or robust driver for the growth for the sector and certainly for Cognizant. We have a slightly differing situation in rest of the sectors, and let me go one by one. On CMT, which is communication, media, and technology, we see excellent demand from technology customers. They understand this wave well, and they are investing in their future. We see excellent, almost as good a discretionary spend environment on technology side. But you do not see an overall growth there because communication sector and a couple of customers, specifically one that has impacted Cognizant, has sort of made the overall aggregate number more flattish. Products and resources are impacted by the geopolitical situation, where they are working through their supply chain.
There is a little bit overemphasis on today's operation versus investing on new technology or new spend. In some form, health is going through its own policy related predicaments or opportunities and challenges. We see these three sectors in a differing space of, or time as discretionary spend, so far as discretionary spend is concerned.
Got it. Any change you are seeing just recently, the most recent month or two, and going forward, do you expect any change in that?
I would not say more recently. I think it is more of the same. The demand environment remains very similar to what we articulated on the earnings call. Only my hope is that as some of the impact of communication sector plateaus this year, and stabilizes, you should see a slightly better outcome on CMT in coming quarters. I do see that there is an opportunity out there on the CMT space better than what it has been in the past. It is not because the environment is changing, but a particular customer that impacted our performance in the first half is now more stable and will not create any more negative headwind for us.
The question that comes up from investors is that customer that created that impact, could that be more like that to come? Could there be other customers in CMT that make similar decisions in their spend?
Yeah, you can't say what would happen, but I don't see any of that on the horizon as we speak.
Okay. The other thing that we're hearing in the channel is that incumbents are more at risk than usual to be replaced by competing IT service companies. How much are the new non-FTE models driven by AI impacting competitive decisions, making incumbents more vulnerable?
What I observed on the deal activity, including the large deals that Cognizant has signed over previous few quarters, is not whether it is incumbent versus a new player or a player from a new industry or something like that. I think the key differentiators have been your ability to demonstrate that you understand the use case or a large application of new technology like AI in a particular situation or a customer problem. Customer also look at which are the companies that seem to be the companies which are leaning forward and will be the companies of relevance in time to come, in next 3 or 4 years. So combination of your ability to problem solve a particular customer challenge and your ability to demonstrate that you would be that forward-leaning organization, not just now, but in coming years, is the sort of secret sauce of winning large deals.
Is there a pressure on incumbents? Yes, but it has always been that incumbents would always be challenged with an aggressive proposal from an outsider. At the same time, incumbents have the advantage of understanding the IT estate, which is more and more relevant. Most of the probabilistic solutions are AI plus context is equal to your answer, and ability of an incumbent to provide context is real, and it is a real advantage. So I would think incumbents are not that much as a risk as you hear in the sideline conversations.
Okay, that is helpful. The other one that we discuss a lot on the industry is just the delivery model, and it is a surprise to us that we are still seeing headcount growth in some of the models. You would think that with AI you would replace a meaningful amount of heads, in that there should be a reduction in the amount of heads for IT service companies of 25%-50% or more, like over a certain amount of years. So how do you see the headcount evolving in the industry?
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